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Bill: Government, January 2507

Details

Submitted by[?]: Dovani Resurrection Coalition

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2507

Description[?]:

I'm sure the Pro-Grain club would like to have four seats in the cabinet. They deserve far more than two. The Order of Valtiel would certainly prefer four seats to none.

And we believe that we can all agree that the DFAF took far too many seats; much more than they deserve.

We would include the FPP, but we are almost certain they would vote with the DFAF as usual.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date00:12:23, December 27, 2007 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageIt is a sad day indeed when half-brain, corn chewing Yokels are given seats of power but needs must I suppose.

Date00:43:18, December 27, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
Message"half-brain, corn chewing Yokels"

We may also be city men like yourselves, FZL, but we would rather you not insult the farmers. They have an important role in society, and we could not subsist without them. And they may be corn chewing Yokels, but they aren't exactly half-brained; are you aware the vast majority of farmers in the Dranian Imperium have doctorates' degrees in agricultural management? Do you have any idea how difficult the Agricultural Mastery exam is? We'd like to see how many people in your party can pass it!

Agriculture has progressed and changed much from the low-intelligent manual labor task that it was a few centuries ago.

Date07:42:55, December 27, 2007 CET
FromFreeminded People's Party
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageThis proposed Government has a majority of only two -- as there are two new parties that will be contesting the next election, the Government is almost certain to be reduced to a minority, meaning that a new one will need to be formed in two years' time.

Let's just skip it, shall we?

Date15:02:39, December 27, 2007 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
Message"Agriculture has progressed and changed much from the low-intelligent manual labor task that it was a few centuries ago."

If that is indeed the case, why do the Yokel filth still wander the streets, stinking to high heaven and dribbling on the sidewalks? Personal hygiene is important.

Date19:27:11, December 27, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageFPP:

A new government SHOULD and MUST be formed EVERY election. This makes no difference, except for a MUCH better government. You only want people to skip over this bill because you don't want to lose your power.

Date19:28:23, December 27, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageFZP:

We haven't encountered any such experiences with these "Yokels," so we can't explain why you have a negative attitude towards them.

Date19:42:15, December 27, 2007 CET
FromOrder of Valtiel
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageOOC: The "Pro Grain Club" used to be a Welsh Party until the Genocide and the user who controled it went away for awhile....

Date21:02:13, December 27, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
Message[OOC]

Oh, ok. So we should be RPing a negative attitude against them then?

Date21:02:53, December 27, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
Message[OOC]

But then, I'm not concerned about RPing anything to do with the Welsh; it was 75 years ago.

Date22:49:15, December 28, 2007 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
Message[OOC]

Who cares what you're concerned with? How long have you been with us exactly? Not long enough I'd wager for any of the old timers to give a damn about what you think (no offense intended).

[/OOC]

Dranian hatred for the Welsh is ingrained in our culture. 75 years might be enough time for the DTM to forget the dark cloud that the half breeds brought upon our society but I can assure you that relatives of those who lived through those times will never forget the sacrifices that had to be made to ensure our future.

Date15:37:21, December 29, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageWe're for progress. If you're too pathetic to let go of the past and look towards the future, than we're not the box you should check on the ballot.

Date18:57:18, December 29, 2007 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageAs if we needed telling that faux Totalitarianism is not for Fascists.

Date20:38:06, December 29, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageProgress is not faux totalitarianism.

Date02:17:25, December 30, 2007 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageYou better start major reforms at your HQ then, or are you content with forever being the party that hangs around on the fringes, being constantly mocked by the man on the street?

Date13:28:02, December 30, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageThere are plenty of authoritarian Dranians that are fed up with your pointless racism. You attacked the Welsh without warning, without reason, and without provocation. Shame on you.

Date20:07:40, December 30, 2007 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageThe only shame to be felt is that weak political parties such as yourselves are now benefitting from the freedoms brought about by "the willing" all those years ago. Hardly the result Mr Tillerson et al envisaged when they took their brave decision.

Date20:31:16, December 30, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageThe Welsh did not do anything, did not provoke anyone, and were not in any way restricting freedom. You simply slaughtered millions of innocent people without ANY reason whatsoever and now continue to smear them. We'd love to put the Welsh in power of the Dranian Imperium; we'd like to see just what method they would use to slaughter you.

Date15:00:42, December 31, 2007 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageTo say that the Welsh did not provoke anyone is unbvelievably naive and shows a complete lack of knowledge of basic Dranian history. We suggest that the DRC keeps quiet on matters it does not fully understand and concentrates on defining what their party actually stands for instead.

Not so long ago your Welsh sympathising stance would have been grounds for your legal execution.

Date16:38:56, December 31, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageIsn't it interesting how the FZL is incapable of providing any evidence of Welsh provocation or any evils the Welsh did. All you Nazis should be taken out back a rail yard and shot. You are a shame to the Dranian people.

Date16:51:41, December 31, 2007 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageAs are your faux Totalitarian half wits.

Date17:33:59, December 31, 2007 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageYou are no fascists either; more like confused authoritarian racist socialists.

Date16:52:14, January 01, 2008 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageIf we had been given more space on our party application form then we would gladly have become the Confused Authoritarian Racist Socialist Zealotry League. Sadly there was not enough room. You forgot homophobe by the way.

Date17:02:42, January 01, 2008 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageOh yes, you are homophobes as well. For no reason either.

Date17:13:40, January 01, 2008 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageWe reserve the right to be racist homophobes in the same way as you hate religion for being raped during choir practice.

Date17:15:54, January 01, 2008 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageNot a single member of our party was ever a member in a choir, nor in a religious school.

But if you are insinuating that members of your party were raped by Welsh homosexuals, then perhaps you should lighten up and realize that not all Welsh are homosexual, and not all homosexuals are going to rape your precious party members.

Date17:26:05, January 01, 2008 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
Message"Not a single member of our party was ever a member in a choir, nor in a religious school."

In much the same way as Madam Peeper is not a member of the CCC but in fact a high ranking official in the FZL I expect.

Welsh find it hard to do anything when they have their heads caved in with rocks anyway. We have not been concerned with the half-breeds for some time but that does not mean we will ever forget the threat they posed to this nation in days gone by and neither should you.

Date17:30:45, January 01, 2008 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
Message"Madam Peeper" was proven and confessed a fraud and sentenced to prison.

How did the Welsh threaten the nation? What was wrong with them? Why did you attack them?

These are questions we have yet to get a clear answer from you.

Date17:33:45, January 01, 2008 CET
FromDovani Resurrection Coalition
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageAnd really, if the Welsh have every posed any threat, it is the grave threat they now pose to racists such yourselves.

Date17:36:42, January 01, 2008 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageShe was not however proven to be a member of the FZL and yet you still asserted that she was. Your party may be faux-totalitarian in it's political nature but you're definitely the real mccoy 100% totailitarian when it comes to RP it seems. ;)

Re: Welsh

The back story is there for everybody to see and read in the DDN.

Date10:38:13, January 04, 2008 CET
FromPro Grain Club
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageThe back story is there for all to read, and anyone reading it will note how our nation, under the contol of cultists and facsicts, created a vendetta against one race for no reason other than hatred.

OOC

Was on holiday while allof this bill happened, hence the not voting or talking!

Date18:34:27, January 04, 2008 CET
FromFascist Zealotry League
ToDebating the Government, January 2507
MessageAh....memories, great days!

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 199

no
   

Total Seats: 374

abstain
   

Total Seats: 177


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