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Bill: Titles
Details
Submitted by[?]: Order of Valtiel
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2511
Description[?]:
| These are my Proposed Titles ---------------------------------------------------------- Head of State: Emperor Head of Government: Lord Protector Legislature: Kloister Regions: Demesne |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Prime Minister
Current: President of the Council of Ministers
Proposed: Consul
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: President
Current:
| 新風尼師今 (His Excellency the Sinp'ung Isagŭm of Great Bae, Baek Taejung) |
Proposed: Praetor
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: National Assembly
Current: Senate of Great Bae
Proposed: Kloister
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The official title of subnational entities, also known as regions.
Old value:: Region
Current: Province/Administrative City (道/特別市)
Proposed: Demesne
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:05:06, January 01, 2008 CET | From | Dovani Resurrection Coalition | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | [OOC] Imperial Senate sounds much better; Rome had a Senate when it was an empire. What do you think about calling regions just empires? Like, as if our empire were a union of other empires (which is basically what the Dovani Union is going to be). |
| Date | 17:08:46, January 01, 2008 CET | From | Fascist Zealotry League | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | Re: Senate We prefer a little bit of originality over such a common title which is why we have supported the Order's proposed changes for some time now and will continue to do so. |
| Date | 17:11:42, January 01, 2008 CET | From | Dovani Resurrection Coalition | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | Could you explain the definition of "Kloister?" |
| Date | 17:16:39, January 01, 2008 CET | From | Fascist Zealotry League | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | Does there have to be a definition? The Imperium seems to be getting annoyingly anal these days. |
| Date | 04:53:34, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Dranian Free Anarchist Faction | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | We propose, "N/A" for all titles. |
| Date | 05:01:16, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Dranian Free Anarchist Faction | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | However, barring that, we propose: Head of State: Praetor (not as technically correct, but unique) Head of Government: Consul (technically correct, but less unique) Legislature: Kloister (heck, it's a fun word... I just don't like "Imperial Kloister", just like I dislike "National Assembly". It's overwordy) Regions: Demesne (unique, archaic, interesting) |
| Date | 06:35:30, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | I like your idea on shortening it to just Kloister and Demesne sounds pretty cool... I guess I could put up with Praetor and Consul... Anyone else? |
| Date | 18:51:58, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | Then we will put it up to a vote. |
| Date | 18:52:54, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | OOC: Crap I forgot to change the message to reflect the change of proposals to "Praetor" and "Consul"... |
| Date | 20:49:08, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Dovani Resurrection Coalition | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | [OOC] Vote against this and re-propose the new bill. We are in favor of the new idea; not the old one. |
| Date | 20:49:32, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Dovani Resurrection Coalition | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | [OOC] In fact, we'll propose it. Everyone else vote against this. |
| Date | 20:53:16, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Dovani Resurrection Coalition | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | [OOC] But I need more quota first... |
| Date | 20:55:09, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Dovani Resurrection Coalition | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | [OOC] Eh - what the hell...I'll vote in favor and change it later. |
| Date | 20:59:26, January 02, 2008 CET | From | Dovani Resurrection Coalition | To | Debating the Titles |
| Message | We detract the pass four messages; our invisible "godly" voice had his foot in his mouth. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 572 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 141 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 37 |
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