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Bill: Proposals towards socialism VII - the freedom of religion- November 2510
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Jelbanian Party-D.L.J.-D.L.F
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2512
Description[?]:
| Some proposals for a total neutrality of the state in religious matters. We support the total freedom of religion and cult, with respect for every form of spirituality and without prejudices or preferences. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:34:22, January 03, 2008 CET | From |  Parti Marxiste des Travailleurs | To | Debating the Proposals towards socialism VII - the freedom of religion- November 2510 |
| Message | we will support |
| Date | 04:58:07, January 04, 2008 CET | From | Anarchistes pour une Société Libre | To | Debating the Proposals towards socialism VII - the freedom of religion- November 2510 |
| Message | The PBN supports, but would favor banning religion. |
| Date | 05:01:07, January 04, 2008 CET | From | Démocrates de la Gauche | To | Debating the Proposals towards socialism VII - the freedom of religion- November 2510 |
| Message | We very strongly support. Turn the tides of clerics and fanatics that have seek to make Jelbania a place for only select people. Make Jelbania a place for all Jelbanians. |
| Date | 01:23:58, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Proposals towards socialism VII - the freedom of religion- November 2510 |
| Message | A voluntary religion does not make Jelbania a place for only "select" people. It simply honors our Christian tradition but also gives our citizens the freedom to make their own decisions on religious matters. |
| Date | 02:40:50, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Démocrates de la Gauche | To | Debating the Proposals towards socialism VII - the freedom of religion- November 2510 |
| Message | It takes people's taxes and gives it to some religious groupe they don't support. Is this fairness? No it's not, you mine as well support the CUF's isolationist proposals and their punchline Jelbania for Jelbanians. Not really too much difference in what they are. |
| Date | 19:56:44, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Proposals towards socialism VII - the freedom of religion- November 2510 |
| Message | What does this have to do with isolationist proposals or the philosophy behind "Jelbania for Jelbanians"? We do not support that at all. |
| Date | 01:47:44, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Démocrates de la Gauche | To | Debating the Proposals towards socialism VII - the freedom of religion- November 2510 |
| Message | Well what does one state funded religion represent, WHO does it represent? Only the pure Jelbanians? Only the ones that follow your beliefs? Or only the ones that are in your belief circle get special attention, they get their church to be state funded. What this creates is a Jelbania for Jelbanians, not a Jelbania for all. Your just as good as the CUF on this. State religion is not traditional, state religion is an alien to Jelbania. Don't try to force not traditional conservative methods on Jelbania. Let Jelbania be. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 272 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 229 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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