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Bill: Eglises pour les citoyens
Details
Submitted by[?]: Option Citoyenne
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2512
Description[?]:
| All church properties are to administered by the state on behalf of the Citizens. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state appoints all heads and other ministers of all religions.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religious organizations are not permitted to actively promote themselves or advertise, however evangelism is permitted by individuals.
Proposed: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Current: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Proposed: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:39:55, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Parti Communiste de Rildanor | To | Debating the Eglises pour les citoyens |
| Message | Articles 2 and 3 are absurd. |
| Date | 20:53:21, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Option Citoyenne | To | Debating the Eglises pour les citoyens |
| Message | Why? Article 2 taxes all income by corporate bodies, including religious bodies. That's simple fairness. Article 3 ensures that the government can prevent sects from spreading misinformation. It's much like the end of the law "encouraging" the filth brought by foreign missionaries. |
| Date | 21:15:01, January 05, 2008 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Eglises pour les citoyens |
| Message | All of these articles are repugnant, but in particular Articles 2 and 3. Religious bodies should not be taxed, but this bill is proposing something far more idiotic: that even charitable projects should be taxed. |
| Date | 04:55:06, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Option Citoyenne | To | Debating the Eglises pour les citoyens |
| Message | It says "all religious income shall be taxed." Charities not spreading superstition remain tax-free. |
| Date | 20:19:24, January 06, 2008 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Eglises pour les citoyens |
| Message | Its a pity this travesty wont pass. I'm sure my fellow ministers would've thoroughly enjoyed appointing Moslem ministers of religion that preach about Jesus Christ being the Saviour of the World and the lying abomination that is the Koran. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 66 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 160 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 77 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "The spirit of democracy is not a mechanical thing to be adjusted by abolition of forms. It requires change of heart." - Mahatma Gandhi |