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Bill: Earthly Community III
Details
Submitted by[?]: National People's Gang
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2106
Description[?]:
| Unfettered by any degree of humanitarian restraint, global capital has been stripping weatlh from Lodamun, scorning any attempts to protect the workers who toil ceaselessly while rogue businesses in all guises operate without the merest regard to standards of health and safety in order to reap maximum profit. The wealth of Lodamun is for the people of Lodamun. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 0
Current: 30
Proposed: 100
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on luxury goods.
Old value:: 0
Current: 25
Proposed: 50
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:13:04, September 03, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | Foreign investment is good for lodamun. Funny how a party that supports government sponsored foreign aid can say that last line. |
| Date | 01:14:01, September 03, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | 100% tax rate? What a perfect way to destroy all businesses, especially the most vulnerable of them, DWCs. |
| Date | 01:25:17, September 03, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | Profit is not an issue. The purpose of industry is to provide for human need. |
| Date | 01:49:15, September 03, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | The purpose of industry is to improve one's own position and possessions by providing goods and services that others are willing to purchase. |
| Date | 02:08:00, September 03, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | If that was the truth, industry would not have preceded commerce. |
| Date | 21:41:35, September 03, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | Industry did not preceed commerce. Agriculture camee first, then commerce, then industry. (Check your history). Opposed in all ways possible. |
| Date | 21:44:40, September 03, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | Wrong. |
| Date | 21:05:42, September 05, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | OOC you will find if you go and do some research on this that sale of surplus crops preceded any industrial activities. These sales were of course barter sales, but sales all the same. That is commerce. The first real industry, by which I mean manufacturing, not services (which are incorrectly labelled industry when they are not) was the production of alcoholoic drinks (wine and beer) and the minting of coins. Check pour history rather than just say "wrong" in an authoritative and incompetent manner. |
| Date | 21:26:06, September 05, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | Before farming people (homo sapiens) travelled in hunter-gatherer communities and used a great variety of tools. While there is little hard evidence from this period it's reasonable to suggest that the best tool-maker in the group often made tools for others. However, even before homo sapiens, neanderthals were big in industry. A valley in Africa contains what is modestly suggested to be more than a million axe-heads. They range from unprocessed rock (carried from three miles away) to finished axe-heads, and include a section of damaged heads thought to be returned for repair. There is, so far, no evidence that neanderthals ever farmed. |
| Date | 02:29:33, September 06, 2005 CET | From | Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition | To | Debating the Earthly Community III |
| Message | Yes to 3, no to 1 and 2. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 56 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 223 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 21 |
| Random fact: Zardugal is a nation based on the old Byzantine Empire, with a modern twist and the Esperanto language. Zardugal is located on the continent of Majatra. |
| Random quote: "A prince never lacks legitimate reasons to break his promise." - Niccolo Machiavelli |