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Bill: Health Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Socialist Labor Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2515
Description[?]:
| The health of the people is important. Therefore, the people deserve to be able to go to the hospital without having to pay extreme doctor fees and should be able to recieve their care from doctors that are members of a health care system where the government will pay for the services. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Current: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Proposed: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:35:18, January 09, 2008 CET | From | Unity Of Peoples Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | UPP sees nothing wrong with having private clinics alongside free ones. Private clinics provide a good alternative for the people who wish not to use the clinics the govt. funds. Banning them would also take away freedom for citizens to choose to go outside the govt. for health care. UPP will not support anything that takes away freedom the public deserves. |
| Date | 14:37:45, January 09, 2008 CET | From | Boston Tea Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | Agree fully with UPP. |
| Date | 18:57:44, January 09, 2008 CET | From | National Socialist Wester Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | We agree with this proposal completely - private clinics only punish the poor and those who cannot afford them. |
| Date | 22:30:46, January 09, 2008 CET | From | Moderate Party of Ikradon | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | I'll say "no". |
| Date | 23:11:18, January 09, 2008 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | Providing a service which would not be available otherwise does not punish anyone. We oppose this ill-though-out proposal. |
| Date | 23:58:18, January 09, 2008 CET | From | National Socialist Labor Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | My point with this bill is that since we have to spend time and resources to "heavily regulate" this system, why not just run the whole thing. Heavily regulated In effect means that we are running the health care system anyway. Since poor people cannot afford to take advantage of this elite form of health care it is highly discriminatory to continue to support them under the guise of "giving people a choice"? |
| Date | 00:05:15, January 10, 2008 CET | From | Unity Of Peoples Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | So because the poor can't afford it, it should be abolished? |
| Date | 14:29:22, January 10, 2008 CET | From | National Socialist Labor Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | A better question would be: Why do we have one system for the poor and a better system for the rich? The rich deserve better health care than the gov't provides the poor? Obviously, the answer is that there is a caste system in this country. Is this the type of system the UPP supports? http://www.beyondintractability.org/images/aha/rich_poor.jpg We believe the Gov't can provide equally for all. FREE of charge. |
| Date | 16:06:08, January 10, 2008 CET | From | Unity Of Peoples Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | Nobody says it is better. Just Different. |
| Date | 17:37:00, January 10, 2008 CET | From | National Socialist Labor Party | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | http://www.scratch.com.au/gap.jpg |
| Date | 23:59:03, January 10, 2008 CET | From | Centre | To | Debating the Health Act |
| Message | This proposal is both fiscally and socially irresponsible. The state can neither afford to provide universal healthcare at the quality most would expect or ensure equity in delivery of said healthcare due to lacking infrastructure/bureaucratic shortfalls. Also we cannot socially allow our people to become addled by the teat of the state. People should be given the choice to advance and grow as they see fit. Personal freedoms and individualism are essential. The state as a way of dashing those freedoms and limiting those choices. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 168 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 333 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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