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Bill: money to the people
Details
Submitted by[?]: Friendly Communist's of Likatonia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2106
Description[?]:
| the 75% tax on proffit shall be to pay for the money for people who have no support from a partner to live a normal life. this is to make sure that the multi-national corperations make money but not enough to abuse the working class and so the unlucky people of our nation may atleast get a basic income to support them self and start to build a better life for themself and thier children. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 10
Current: 15
Proposed: 40
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:23:27, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | The AAP begs clarification - are you really intending to move coporate taxation from 10% to 75%? Or are we misreading? |
| Date | 01:31:22, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Friendly Communist's of Likatonia | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | it is not tax in general it is tax on PROFIT and yes i propose 75% as this would give the government a bigger buget to make the lives of the average person better.and it would also keep big business's from being able to contral the working class. |
| Date | 01:32:49, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Friendly Communist's of Likatonia | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | also at 75% the businesses will make money just not a huge amount that will decrease the value of our currancy. |
| Date | 01:54:14, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | Seems like a big jump - you may have some problems pushing such a jump past certain of the parties. To better suit their libertarian sympathies, many of the AAP would prefer to see some different method of dealing with the gross profit margins of certain industries. For example, allowing employess to 'work up' shares in the company, that would equate to a profit-sharing mechanism. OOC: Unfortunately, I do not believe Particracy has ANY mechanism that could deal with such ideas. |
| Date | 14:42:26, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | Absolute rubbish, a tax increase like that would destroy industry in this country. Investment would collapse, businesses would not want to locate here, millions of jobs would be lost, and there would be no incentive for individuals to work harder. We are very opposed to this nonsense. |
| Date | 16:43:01, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | We applaud the sentiments of this bill but agree with AAP and CPL that 75% is far too high a figure. I would suggest 40% as a compromise. |
| Date | 16:50:48, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | 40% would still destroy our reputation amonsgt the business and industrial communities. We want to attract more businesses to locate in Likatonia, not deter them |
| Date | 23:26:11, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Friendly Communist's of Likatonia | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | no i dont think your party understands, conservative party of likatoni. this is a tax on profit npot on the total income. if you dont know the difference total income is all the money together and profit is the money they make even after all the bills are paid. i will lower to 40% as atleast it is progress. |
| Date | 23:29:36, September 04, 2005 CET | From | Friendly Communist's of Likatonia | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | sorry forgot to change description b4 i procced to vote so just remember 40% tax on PROFIT. as in the companies still make loads of money. |
| Date | 10:17:31, September 05, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | Profit is what businesses are there to make. 40% tax on profit will is the 3nd Highest Tax on profits in the world, only two nations exceed this and they both charge 100%. |
| Date | 16:56:38, September 05, 2005 CET | From | Friendly Communist's of Likatonia | To | Debating the money to the people |
| Message | yes and since im not proposing we take all the money they make and leave them to break even, this means there will still be growth but it will be a steadier and safer growth that ensures inflation doesnt get out of contrall or that businesses make so much money that they can push any one around. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 53 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 49 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 113 |
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