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Bill: Pension Reform Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Covenanters (IA)

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2106

Description[?]:

An act to make provision for workers to enhance their pensionable income by opting into private pensions available in addition to their state pension.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date04:00:46, September 05, 2005 CET
FromNational Forwardist Party
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
Messagei don't see why the state needs to operate an optional private system.

if the people want to have a private pension, it seems that letting the banks handle it would provide much more of an economic boost than just another state system.

Date04:03:39, September 05, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
MessageThis voting against me is getting down to a personal level isn't it? This is clearly a left-wing policy that you would have supported if another party had tabled it.

Date04:09:04, September 05, 2005 CET
FromNational Forwardist Party
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
Messageno, it's not.

look at how i vote on the space program: the state subsidises private contractors.

it's a mix of letting the state do what it needs to, and letting the rest go to what keeps the economy moving.

Date04:45:20, September 05, 2005 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
MessageNFP, the optional private pension is a non-government pension sytem, the public system is the state system.

Date04:47:00, September 05, 2005 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
MessageIt could be a bank, or an insurance company, or a company specialising in pension plans. Or indeed any company. It could even be a community-run system.

Date10:09:19, September 05, 2005 CET
FromNational Forwardist Party
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
Messagebut does it need to be endorsed and enforced by the government?

no.

if the banks want to run their own pensions, let them. it's not banned.

if they don't, that's fine, too.

but we don't need a bill telling them to do so.

Date19:13:40, September 05, 2005 CET
FromNational Forwardist Party
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
Messagei'm noot voting against this because it's wrong.

i'm voting against it because it's unnecessary.

Date01:59:42, September 06, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
MessageI was surprised to see which way the LLP voted after reading their comments above...

Date06:09:26, September 06, 2005 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
MessageWell at the time the option allowed for people to have no pension, the new one is better.

Date22:58:51, September 06, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Pension Reform Act
MessageAh. you changed your vote! Was the no vote a mis-click?

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 362

no
   

Total Seats: 183

abstain
  

Total Seats: 55


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