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Bill: Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: JDW Tukarali Greens Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2519
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:47:59, January 18, 2008 CET | From | JDW Tukarali Greens Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | no binding articles anyone oppose this? |
| Date | 00:48:41, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | I don't. If I had gotten foreign affairs, I would have proposed this. |
| Date | 00:54:12, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | We oppose. It's stupid. In addition, it proposes to institute different laws for different people. This goes against the rule of law, which requires all people are subject to the same law. |
| Date | 01:15:47, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | *raises eyebrows* How is this stupid JUP? Your argument is not making any sense. Then again, that's nothing new. |
| Date | 01:55:40, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | There are several problems with this. 1. The legislature should not be wasting time proposing ratifying unnecessary and frivolous treaties concerning fictional matters. This is why it is stupid. 2. It enshrines exceptions in our law for a certain class of persons (albeit, fictional) from any form of prosecution. This will set it up so that a certain class of people are immune from any form of prosecution, which is morally wrong. 3. This infringes on human rights, primarily a person's property rights. 4. It is contrary to the idea of a secular state to install specific laws for the holidays of a specific religion. |
| Date | 02:10:51, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | 1. You do know that St. Nicholas was real so to say he's a fictional character is stupid 2. So you do not want kids to receive their presents? Shame on you. 3. And a child's right to receive presents from Saint Nicholas 4. Um...what? How the fuck is this a religious debate? |
| Date | 02:22:31, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | St Nicholas was not a person in this world, and even if he was, he is long dead. Regardless, this treaty doesn't concern St Nicholas. It concerns Santa Claus, a fictional figure. They are not the same. Christmas is a Christian holiday, and St Nicholas a Christian bishop. |
| Date | 02:23:59, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | Even though he streatches across all religions? You realize that Christmas is just not a Christian Holiday. Many cultures celebrate Christmas who are not christians. |
| Date | 02:32:49, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | Christmas is a Christian holiday. That other cultures celebrate it doesn't diminish that. Our party's opposition to this treaty is not really based upon religion however. That is only a very minor issue. |
| Date | 15:25:40, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | Um no. Christmas is not a Christian Holiday JUP. Non Christians celebrate it as well. If this is a minor issue then allow santa claus to be protected. |
| Date | 21:24:44, January 18, 2008 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | heheh.. fun proposal |
| Date | 01:29:01, January 19, 2008 CET | From | JDW Tukarali Greens Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Santa Claus Accessibility & Protection Act |
| Message | here we go ho ho ho |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 272 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 202 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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