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Bill: National Defense Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rightist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2522
Description[?]:
| TBD |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:28:08, January 23, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | We live in an age of peace and international cooperation. This will do nothing but stand in the way of that. We are a neutral nation, and we cannot compromise that by having such an agency. |
| Date | 21:46:37, January 23, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | Then ban the intel agency all together. Lord knows you want to. |
| Date | 21:55:19, January 23, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | The intelligence agency exists to help defend our nation - national defence. It does not exist to carry out aggressive, covert action against foreign nations. |
| Date | 00:12:04, January 24, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | So you retract the statement about not needing such an agency? |
| Date | 00:18:38, January 24, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | We need an intelligence agency. We do not need one which engages in aggressive covert actions in foreign countries. |
| Date | 03:04:30, January 24, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | So do you retract you statement that we do not need an intel agency? |
| Date | 03:05:24, January 24, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | Where did we say that we should not maintain any form of intelligence agency? |
| Date | 07:10:45, January 24, 2008 CET | From | JDW Tukarali Greens Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | oppose this would place our nation back in the stone age of allowing the cowboys to run the ranch and assassinate anyone, anytime, anywhere, including members of the JUP party who happen to be overseas. |
| Date | 14:56:23, January 24, 2008 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | "We are a neutral nation, and we cannot compromise that by having such an agency." |
| Date | 20:00:41, January 24, 2008 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the National Defense Act |
| Message | "Such an agency" - one which engages in aggressive covert operations in foreign countries. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 233 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 267 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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