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Bill: UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2525
Description[?]:
| C'mon! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:32:03, January 30, 2008 CET | From | 2ème PPPP | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | Save the babies! |
| Date | 03:33:29, January 30, 2008 CET | From | Union Pour Un Movement Populaire | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | Save our women. |
| Date | 07:24:51, January 30, 2008 CET | From | 2ème PPPP | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | "Save our women from those mean men who want to stop them from murdering their own children..." |
| Date | 14:35:56, January 30, 2008 CET | From | Parti Libertaire | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | You mean from murdering partially developed fetuses. |
| Date | 14:54:14, January 30, 2008 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | Really? Three months isn't long enough for a woman to make a decision. Even if she wasn't aware of it for a whole month, that still leaves two. That's time to figure it out, think about it, and then carry it out if she so chooses. In essence, you're arguing for women to terminate a pregnancy at 8 months & 29 days; by that time, it is indeed a baby (given that it easily be born nearly two months before that time and still grow to be a successful, intelligent human being). We feel that abortion is a right that women have, however, we feel 3 montsh is a long enough time to discover a pregancy and terminate if that is a woman's decision. |
| Date | 18:54:25, January 30, 2008 CET | From | Parti Socialiste | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | So it might be but we still hold the rights of the woman above all. |
| Date | 19:50:47, January 30, 2008 CET | From | Parti Libertaire | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | We agree, UCG. We are not actually quite clear on our position on this issue, however as it stands we find the first trimester is still not long enough. |
| Date | 23:45:13, January 30, 2008 CET | From | Parti Socialiste | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | We don't think the government is in a place to say what is enough time to decide, that should not even be the argument here. What that tries to do is to completely undermine the pro right movement by poking holes and saying that this is enough time, or this is enough time. |
| Date | 02:44:33, January 31, 2008 CET | From | 2ème PPPP | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | Uhh... this argument about the government not having to be involved is like saying that murder shouldn't be illegal. Governments provide security, rights and equality, and in this case the security of hundreds of babies' lives is worth far more than the convenience of mothers being able to get rid of the other life they're carrying around any time they want to. |
| Date | 09:00:07, January 31, 2008 CET | From | Parti Libertaire | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | This is far, far more than just making things convenient for mothers. There are hundreds of unwanted children who lead horrible lives because the mother was forced to have them when she wasn't ready. This can be asily remedied. On the other hand, we are talking about human life, and so this issue still remains a hard one. |
| Date | 02:35:26, February 01, 2008 CET | From | 2ème PPPP | To | Debating the UCG1 - Abortion Act of February 2524 |
| Message | And yet you still choose murder and convenience over life. Kanjor is an incredibly stable and prosperous nation. Those babies that are aborted each year would grow up with much support from Kanjor and this government and would be able to lead normal happy lives, even if they were in foster homes or similar institutions. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 203 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 297 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "Politics have no relation to morals." - Niccolo Machiavelli |