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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of January 2528

Details

Submitted by[?]: Judicial Union Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2528

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:59:58, February 06, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2528
MessageHere, the Graenix party can be represented in the Council, with one of the major ministries (Infrastructure).

Date00:59:46, February 07, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Graenix Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2528
MessageYay! Affirmative action

Date04:05:46, February 07, 2008 CET
FromJDW Tukarali Greens Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2528
Messagesorry, JUP cannot form a coalition with your party until the taxation on religion your party introduced is stopped

that is why I why I stated my "no confidence" in the gov coalition we were in at the time

Date04:11:31, February 07, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2528
MessageReligions aren't taxed. Religious institutions are taxed on their profit only.

You're not doing very well at being a secular party.

Date04:55:45, February 07, 2008 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2528
MessageThe problem though JUP is that taxing religious institutions has the appearance of religions being taxed.

Date05:08:01, February 07, 2008 CET
FromJudicial Union Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2528
MessageLet's say we have two organisations. One is a homeless shelter run by a local church, the other is a homeless shelter run by a group of volunteers. Both need funding to run, and so they receive donations from ordinary citizens. Under the current law, this money is not taxed, as donations to charities are not taxed.

Both organisations decide that they should use some of this money to do further fundraising, by selling some food to members of the public at a slight markup. This way they can use the profit to provide for more homeless people. Under the current law, both organisations pay the standard corporate tax rate on this profit. Whether or not they should pay tax on this profit is immaterial, the fact being that they are treated as being the same, even though one is religious based, and the other is not.

Under the old law however, the church run homeless shelter pays no tax on this profit. The secular homeless shelter does pay tax on this profit. The only difference in these organisations is that one is religious based, whereas the other is not. Could any right-minded individual, holding the principle of the separation of church and state in the front of their mind, call this situation optimal?

That is the reason for the law being changed to the current.

Date18:25:37, February 07, 2008 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2528
Messagecall this situation optimal?

If we are talking about both secular and religious not being taxed for this homeless shelter then HELL YA!!

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 161

no
    

Total Seats: 339

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


Random fact: Real-life religions should not be referenced in Particracy. Terra has its own religions, many of which mirror real-life ones. See: http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Illustrated_Catalogue_of_Religion

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