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Bill: Budget proposal of February 2530
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2531
Description[?]:
| The Democratic Rationalists propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the Democratic Republic of Aloria. |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 40,000,000 ALO | 160,000,000 ALO | 175,000,000 ALO |
| Foreign Affairs | 5,300,000,000 ALO | 2,500,000,000 ALO | 2,500,000,000 ALO |
| Internal Affairs | 17,000,000,000 ALO | 130,000,000 ALO | 150,000,000 ALO |
| Finance | 7,000,000,000 ALO | 160,000,000 ALO | 175,000,000 ALO |
| Defence | 30,000,000,000 ALO | 10,000,000,000 ALO | 11,000,000,000 ALO |
| Justice | 35,000,000,000 ALO | 1,200,000,000 ALO | 1,250,000,000 ALO |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 30,000,000,000 ALO | 2,000,000,000 ALO | 2,500,000,000 ALO |
| Health and Social Services | 18,000,000,000 ALO | 7,000,000,000 ALO | 8,000,000,000 ALO |
| Education and Culture | 25,000,000,000 ALO | 2,000,000,000 ALO | 3,000,000,000 ALO |
| Science and Technology | 4,000,000,000 ALO | 800,000,000 ALO | 1,000,000,000 ALO |
| Food and Agriculture | 6,500,000,000 ALO | 90,000,000 ALO | 100,000,000 ALO |
| Environment and Tourism | 2,000,000,000 ALO | 2,000,000,000 ALO | 2,000,000,000 ALO |
| Trade and Industry | 10,000,000,000 ALO | 80,000,000 ALO | 100,000,000 ALO |
| Total | 189,840,000,000 ALO | 28,120,000,000 ALO | 31,950,000,000 ALO |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:10:02, February 11, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | At our last budget conference, it was widely agreed that Aloria's government is substantially underfunded. At that time, the floor figure suggested for Alorian spending was %10 of GDP, though some suggested more. We've achieved significant improvements in financing our government in recent years. From a low of less than %1 of GDP, Alorian spending has risen, and now accounts for around %4 of GDP. We're still not investing enough in Aloria, but we've made progress. This bill proposes more progress, substantially increasing our commitments to Aloria's defense, health care, social services, and education. Adjustments are made to most other ministries to account for inflation. We'll leave this bill on the floor for some time for commentary by other parties, and especially other Ministers. If you feel your Ministry requires more or less funding, now is the time to speak up. --Sojourner Smart, Minister of Finance |
| Date | 01:13:22, February 11, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | We'll have a surplus of about 250 million ALOs if this bill passes. |
| Date | 01:25:09, February 11, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | We like. We need more though (up to at least 10% as you said) but we understand that before we get their we need to increase revenues. |
| Date | 02:49:03, February 11, 2008 CET | From |  Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | Nope. This is unnecessary spending. |
| Date | 22:18:07, February 11, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | You've declined to participate in either of the two budget conferences we've had discussing long range fiscal goals, MLP. But going by history, it is apparent that you would reduce spending to nothing. It's hard to take your position that this is "unnecessary spending" as credible under those circumstances. Our central argument is by analogy. We know that even "conservative" nations' government spending accounts for %20 of GDP, with around 6% of GDP spent on defense, another 4-6% on social services, and the remainder elsewhere. Right now, Aloria's spending consists only of about 4% of GDP, with a little over %1 spent on defense. It's not even clear that we're adequately protected from international threats. And you're still not only against spending increases, but actually promoting more budget cuts? |
| Date | 14:17:13, February 12, 2008 CET | From | People's Reform Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | Why do you increase defense so much? We need food, social service and education for Alorians, not weapons! We vote against! |
| Date | 22:41:10, February 12, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | What budget levels do you recommend for those Ministries, PRP? |
| Date | 00:33:18, February 13, 2008 CET | From | People's Reform Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | Heal and SS - 10,000,000,000 ALO, Education and Culture - 5,000,000,000 ALO, Food and A. - 1,000,000,000 ALO. I hope that you will change it, as you promised. |
| Date | 00:33:33, February 13, 2008 CET | From | People's Reform Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 2530 |
| Message | Health* and Social Service i meant. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 555 | |||||||
| no | Total Seats: 195 | |||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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