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Bill: CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2535
Description[?]:
| To support our military if we do enter in the Free Federation of Zardugal versus Republic of Cobura war. This is a condition of CP's support for action as it will not support any motion that will send our men and women to fight without the complete and utter backing that they deserve. Article 1 & 5: Bio Chem weaponry and warfare. We have to fight fire with fire, not wood. As the law states, they must strike first but we must be prepared. The CP has no wish to step away from this stance. Article 2: POWs would be treated badly by Zardugal (according to their laws). We would be open to removal of this article if this allows the bill and resolution to pass. [removed] Article 3: Torture only in emergencies. That can come up during wartime. [removed] Article 4: The servicemen need the covert units to be able to assist whenever possible. The CP has no wish to step away from this stance. Resolution 1: ----------------- The CP is willing to allow Sekowo to fall into debt (as we have had such high surpluses for so many years that we can live off our savings) to fund our war effort. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:22:17, February 18, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | Apart from maybe PUA, I really doubt any other party would support this. |
| Date | 01:56:37, February 18, 2008 CET | From | Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | Even we don't like article 3.... |
| Date | 02:19:01, February 18, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | We might actually support this, though it does not thrill us. |
| Date | 03:43:56, February 18, 2008 CET | From | Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | Were the article on Tourture to be dropped, we would support |
| Date | 06:19:03, February 18, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | PUA's wish is granted. |
| Date | 07:22:48, February 18, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | If our wishes are not supported, we will vote against a combat role in this war. We are, however, not against a humanitarian role. |
| Date | 15:25:35, February 18, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | We arn't jumping for joy, but these are acceptable. |
| Date | 17:49:18, February 18, 2008 CET | From | Peasant Party Of Sekowo | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | I fail to see how this would increase our battle readiness. |
| Date | 06:32:27, February 19, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | 1) bio weaponry is just in case. The CP condones its usage but if certain nations (specifically Zardugal) uses them against us, we would need to strike back at least equally hard. 2) Certain nations (specifically Zardugal) would treat prisoners very harshly and unjustly, as stated by their laws. We should threaten the same although our laws treat prisoners so kindly, that there hardly would make much difference. This makes Sekowo seem like a tougher nation to deal with. Intimidation is good to have. 3) At the moment, our laws prevent any sort of covert operation. That legally eliminates one way that we can strike at certain nations (guess which). Sabotaging their military facilities such as anti-aircraft or naval yards will hinder their war effort. |
| Date | 14:26:32, February 19, 2008 CET | From | Peasant Party Of Sekowo | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | Article Three we can agree to the rest no. |
| Date | 04:04:41, February 20, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the CP.0040.2533 CP Requirements for Zardugal-Cobura War Support |
| Message | We are curious why the PUA voted against. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 328 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 422 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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