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Bill: Just Retirement age for 2540
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Reform Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2541
Description[?]:
| Let's give those, whom worked for us, more liberty and rest. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 65
Current: 63
Proposed: 60
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:28:10, March 02, 2008 CET | From |  Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa) | To | Debating the Just Retirement age for 2540 |
| Message | PRP, we sort of like the idea of this bill. We think people should be able to retire younger. But right now we've a voluntary public pension system, and a reasonably generous welfare system. The practical effect of that is to discourage people from saving for retirement at all. Why bother saving for retirement, when you can collect welfare when you retire? We'd vote for this bill, but we'd need to see: 1) An addendum to this bill making the public pension system mandatory, and 2) A committment by your party to increase funding for health and social services by 5 billion dollars. |
| Date | 02:51:41, March 02, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the Just Retirement age for 2540 |
| Message | I'll vote for this bill, but I would reccomend DR ammendments as well (perhaps it would be better to the make different proposals in different bills) |
| Date | 02:54:14, March 02, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union | To | Debating the Just Retirement age for 2540 |
| Message | Well our party did get it lowered to 65 and have been thinking about lowering. So we'll vote to pass the bill, when/if it starts the voting procedure. |
| Date | 15:15:42, March 02, 2008 CET | From | People's Reform Party | To | Debating the Just Retirement age for 2540 |
| Message | Okay DR. |
| Date | 18:22:02, March 02, 2008 CET | From |  Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Just Retirement age for 2540 |
| Message | What are insult to those who are older but able bodied. Telling a 60-year old today he/she should retire! C'mon our citizens are living, on average, to roughly 80. That's 20 years between "retirement" and death. C'mon. |
| Date | 22:16:34, March 02, 2008 CET | From | Alorian Public Union | To | Debating the Just Retirement age for 2540 |
| Message | They can work past that age if they wanted to. This is just lowing the age at which they start recieving benefits for a job well done. |
| Date | 15:40:29, March 03, 2008 CET | From | People's Reform Party | To | Debating the Just Retirement age for 2540 |
| Message | MLP - Monsters Lieing People. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 351 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 190 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 209 |
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