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Bill: Secular Education - Split

Details

Submitted by^[?]: CNT/AFL

Status^[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2110

Description^[?]:

Public schools are not churches.

Proposal^[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.

Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.

Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.

Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	22:21:21, September 12, 2005 CET
From	CNT/AFL
To	Debating the Secular Education - Split
Message	Doesn't seem to be too much debate, so to a vote.

Date	22:25:48, September 12, 2005 CET
From	Tuesday Is Coming
To	Debating the Secular Education - Split
Message	This bill must not be construed to ban prayers in private schools. The bill description states that only public schools are affected by this law. Correct?

Date	01:14:04, September 13, 2005 CET
From	Chorus of Amyst
To	Debating the Secular Education - Split
Message	"Religious schools" does not seem to be defined here.

Date	01:31:32, September 13, 2005 CET
From	Tuesday Is Coming
To	Debating the Secular Education - Split
Message	That's an interesting ommission...possibly an important one

Date	04:30:16, September 13, 2005 CET
From	Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
To	Debating the Secular Education - Split
Message	as we understand it, there are - public - private - religious - and sometimes charter schools. This would ban teacher-led prayer in all but religious schools. Any private school wanting it, though, could just declare itself a religious school.

Date	04:42:22, September 13, 2005 CET
From	Tuesday Is Coming
To	Debating the Secular Education - Split
Message	We must change our vote then. Private schools must be permitted to operate without these regulations from the government. Charter and public schools should have minimal regulation anyway.

Date	18:59:19, September 13, 2005 CET
From	Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
To	Debating the Secular Education - Split
Message	please don't change your vote bsed on our interpretation, it's really up to the bill sponsor to make the definitions. Although in our reading, any school that wants to can define itself as a religius school, so there is no real problem.

Date	19:50:51, September 13, 2005 CET
From	Tuesday Is Coming
To	Debating the Secular Education - Split
Message	Private schools who do not wish to be religious schools should not be legislated on in this way... Many parents vote for TiC and other parties that favor no government regulation of schools. We can safely assume they want to be able to send their children to schools that are not under the jurisdiction of the government, they want a choice. Others vote for parties that want government control and indoctrination, they can also choose a private school that teaches fascism/communism/socialism, whatever they want their kids to learn. Private schools must be an area where the government does not intervene, if there is a demand for a certain type of private school(such as non-religious with a morning prayer, etc.), then they should be allowed to satisfy that demand without federal regulation.

Vote

Seats

yes

Total Seats: 160

Total Seats: 112

abstain

Total Seats: 0

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