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Bill: Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing

Details

Submitted by[?]: Tukarali Democratic Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2544

Description[?]:

Our party proposes to decentralize the social housing regulation. Local governments have a more clear view on the need of social housing in their district.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date02:33:15, March 09, 2008 CET
FromJDW Tukarali Greens Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
Messageoppose

local = no money = needs are unmet

Date02:36:21, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTuatha Dé Danann
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageAs we are against 90% of all decentralizations, we feel that we are obliged to oppose this one as well. Local governments tend to be inefficient when the needs rise high.

Date03:59:27, March 09, 2008 CET
FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageThis act has our full support.

Date12:23:54, March 09, 2008 CET
FromGreenish Liberal Democratic Socialists
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageOpposed.

Date13:07:11, March 09, 2008 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageWE support.

Date13:19:06, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Democratic Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
Message"Local governments tend to be inefficient". Why? because you control them?

Date13:29:54, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTuatha Dé Danann
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageIf you would check the electory results you would notice that we at the NUA are not in charge of any region, therefore making your statement a last resort desperate attempt at discrediting our fair Alliance which will most likely fail since the provided argument is a non-existant fact.

Date13:43:33, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Democratic Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageYour party just insulted local governments of being inefficient. Talk about first page news.

Date13:58:44, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTuatha Dé Danann
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageYou are claiming I said something which I didn't. Maybe there needs to be a little side lesson in english, explaining the word "tend". Tending towards something does not necessarily mean that they are actually doing it.

For example:

The 26th tends toward intelligence, yet displays that is has none by it's previous comment.


Another failed attempt at discrediting our party (2nd in a row) with wild allegations and plain lies. If these are the actions of a government coalition party, than is this really the government we want for Tukarali?

Date14:08:38, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Democratic Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageDescrediting your party? You can call it "an eye for an eye". After all it is your job to 'discredite' the government, being an opposition party. Your party stated that local governments tend to be inefficient, they will pick this up as being inefficient. Your last reply is just an attempt to do some damage control. Our party fraction smiles.

Date14:19:48, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTuatha Dé Danann
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageYou are now saying what other parties will think. A fascist in the government ladies and gentlemen.

I do not need to discredite the government, the government does this for itself with these rediculous bills.

In what possible way was my last comment damage control? It seems more like an all-out offensive to me which had a devastating impact by the looks of it because it has made the TDP delusional.

Date14:27:13, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Popular Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageThis is going into some mud throwing competition, that is something we definatly find this legislature to be above... Please stop it...

In regards to this bill, we have always believed local governments to be able to deal more effectively with most matters, as they are closer to the people - the individuals the laws affect.

We support.

Date14:31:11, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTuatha Dé Danann
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageMud throwing competition would be correct if there were any direct insults or personal agressions. This is a mere civil heated debate using educated language and to a certain degree, manners, showing the fire that lives in the heart of our nation to fight for whats best for all of us.

O.C. I have seen a lot worse bills where insults were a common fact in every new reply, I don't see the problem with this one

Date14:45:39, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Democratic Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageWe already need a second page to tally your insult on our adress.

Date23:07:17, March 09, 2008 CET
FromTuatha Dé Danann
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageI'd like to see the insults. If there are any they are of a political educated level and are to be taken professionally. If one can't take it, than they are in the wrong profession.

Date16:58:24, March 10, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Democratic Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
Message*laughs* third page.

Date17:10:16, March 10, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Graenix Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageThis would make way for territories to discriminate against low income families

Date17:24:24, March 10, 2008 CET
FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageWhat makes you think that the local governments are going to discriminate?

Date17:25:09, March 10, 2008 CET
FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageI mean...according to the JUP and others, the local governments know what is best for the people moreso than the federal government.

Date21:27:13, March 10, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Democratic Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageLocal governments stand more closer to the people then the national government.

Date22:04:04, March 10, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Graenix Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageMaybe some territories wouldn't want 'poor' people living there so they won't offer low-income housing. And what reason could there be to deny housing to these families other than discrimination?

Date22:05:26, March 10, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Graenix Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageAnd PP, while that might be true on some issues, it is not universal.

Date01:59:26, March 11, 2008 CET
FromTukarali Democratic Party
ToDebating the Infrastructure (i) - Social Housing
MessageI ask myself why some territories would do that to their citizens...unconsciously, local governments are still demonized by many members of this parliament.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 343

no
  

Total Seats: 72

abstain
  

Total Seats: 85


Random fact: When you join the game, you will find yourself with only zero seats. That's because your party's representatives haven't been elected yet. You need to establish your party's position on issues by proposing several bills that your party wants passed and sending them to vote. This raises your visibility and if you do it enough, you will win seats at the next election.

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