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Bill: Repeal of Abortion Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: First Socialist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2141
Description[?]:
| We cannot allow innocent children with every chance of life to be murdered because of the laziness and irresponsibility of others. 99% of all pregnancies are known before the end of the first trimester, so there is plenty of time to decide whether to keep the child or not. As well, all children in the second trimester have a chance of living. We are sickened by the MLP's constant disregard for human life, in the face of supposed progressive ideals. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:21:14, September 12, 2005 CET | From | Ruthlessly Random Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | We agree. |
| Date | 01:05:49, September 13, 2005 CET | From | Militant Labour Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | Never. |
| Date | 07:33:09, September 13, 2005 CET | From |  First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | Of course - the MLP is made up of murderers. |
| Date | 13:18:41, September 13, 2005 CET | From | United Military Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | "Choice is paramount" -Federal Technocrats Second Workers Rights Bill This isn't eactly giving mothers the chances to choose whether they want a baby or not after the first trimester. e.g. You could have a perfectly good situation to raise a child in during the first trimester, then, during the second, you lose your job, and your life goes down the gutter. |
| Date | 17:03:21, September 13, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | So murder a child just so you can eat at McHutori's? Ridiculous. |
| Date | 00:28:37, September 14, 2005 CET | From | United Military Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | Please restate. |
| Date | 02:16:32, September 15, 2005 CET | From | Páirtí Iomlán Saoráid | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | The Left-Libertarian Party defends a Woman's right to choose, even if that choice is made after the first trimester. |
| Date | 02:58:35, September 15, 2005 CET | From | Militant Labour Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | We demand that the previous statement by the Socialist Party be retracted. We consider the Socialist Party's moralistic ranting to display a complete lack of understanding over what it means to be a socialist. We demand that the Socialist Party answers some questions. Given that abortion will only be made available in the first trimester, would further legislation not be necessary? After all, if abortion is restricted to the first trimester, any woman seeking an abortion after this cut-off point would presumably be committing a criminal offence. Would there be a situation in which a woman undergoing an unlawful abortion procedure faced imprisonment? Furthermore, given the lack of international consistency in this legislative area, would it be likely that we would see women being forced to go to another country to have the procedure performed? In the event of this, would she still face criminal charges? Do you think that if this legislation was passed, there would be a class differentiation between those seeking foreign abortion procedures? We would argue that those who can afford to leave the country to get an abortion would, while a significant section of working class women lacked the means. Which brings me to my final point. If the abortion period was restricted to the first trimester, does the Socialist Party representative believe that all women would abide by the law and keep the foetus? Or is it more likely that, faced with the choice, those women who, for whatever reason (psychological, material, or otherwise), do not want to have children might seek an unregulated procedure which, given its illegality, would no doubt be performed under sub-standard conditions by someone who may or may not be properly trained in the procedure. |
| Date | 13:42:22, September 15, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | Paragraph 1: We understand what it is to be a socialist, but you must remember we are also anti-communist. Keep that in mind. Paragraph 2: There will of course be exceptions for medical emergencies, etc, all women will have a right to appeal if there is an illegal abortion, and there is no set penalty for abortion, though imprisonment is a possibility, though we would tend to be against that. Paragraph 3: If they are found to have had an abortion overseas, they would of course be under the same penalties as if they had had an illegal abortion here. And I don't think crossing the border to Telamon is so expensive. Paragraph 4: Yes, we fully anticipate that that would be the case. If they wish to murder a child, they would of course realise the consequences of their actions. Every action comes with an equal and opposite reaction. |
| Date | 05:12:11, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Wilshire Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | Woman's right to choose must continue to be the law of the land |
| Date | 12:48:04, September 20, 2005 CET | From | First Socialist Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | Woman's right to murder? I don't think so. |
| Date | 22:51:22, November 04, 2005 CET | From | Democratic-Republican Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | A woman's right to choose is a paramount right. Therefore, the Roman-Republican Party is AGAINST this. |
| Date | 22:26:53, November 07, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | This should be a free vote as it is a conscience issue. The Libertarian pary will be voting against this proposal as we view the start of life as at the time of birth. We believe that abortion should be allowed at any time, however, after 28 weeks it should only be allowed if a medical condition that placed a serious health risk on the mother came to light. |
| Date | 03:33:35, November 14, 2005 CET | From | Peoples Revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Abortion Bill |
| Message | Womens right to choose is more predominate then the right of the state to hold women accountable for actions that the state cannot in good conscience deem unfit. While i believe partial birth abortion should be seen as crule and inhumane punishment, the first and second trimesters are diffentaly non negotiable. Based on the respect of the thousands of women that what there rights protected not curtailed because of a few...morale questions we the Peoples Liberation Party will vote no. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 127 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 122 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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