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Bill: Homeland Security Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Altneuland Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2546
Description[?]:
| To provide for the protection of the citizenry. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: Citizens are not issued with identity cards.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Proposed: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:13:31, March 15, 2008 CET | From |  Endralon Confederates Party | To | Debating the Homeland Security Bill |
| Message | Or to tyrannize them, whatever. |
| Date | 00:19:49, March 16, 2008 CET | From | Altneuland Party | To | Debating the Homeland Security Bill |
| Message | Because, you know, a government-issued ID is totally tyranny. Gosh, I think those only exist in places like Iran or Zimbabwe. |
| Date | 04:27:47, March 16, 2008 CET | From | Endralonian Liberal Party | To | Debating the Homeland Security Bill |
| Message | Not a chance. |
| Date | 06:35:27, March 16, 2008 CET | From | Endralon Confederates Party | To | Debating the Homeland Security Bill |
| Message | Yeah, and, you know, if I carry around a card with my name and information on it, it makes me a TON safer from terrorists!!! |
| Date | 02:06:33, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Altneuland Party | To | Debating the Homeland Security Bill |
| Message | Well, I don't really see a problem with the government making sure that we know who is in our borders, and to have some form of identification to see who is here legally and who is not. Of course, while I hope you were being sarcastic and/or funny, you seem to consider this tyrannical. Just like Social Security cards, or driver's licenses, or passports. So I don't quite think you're interested in intelligent debate. Not that this is the best forum for that anyways, and besides, every vote I get where everyone goes on the record opposing this viewpoint means that my bloc of conservative-type voters will be less diluted by votes being siphoned off your way. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 33 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 717 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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