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Bill: Health of a Nation Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rutanian Democratic Forum
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2548
Description[?]:
| for healthier nation! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner, and is legal in government-owned buildings.
Current: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in all places of employment.
Proposed: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in places of employment, with the exception of places that primarily serve liquor.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: There are no regulations on the sale of tobacco.
Current: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Proposed: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on vaccinations.
Old value:: The government encourages vaccinations for children, but does not enforce them.
Current: The government mandates vaccination for all children, but parents may opt out for religious or ideological reasons.
Proposed: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:01:46, March 16, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Health of a Nation Act |
| Message | Why must the government insist on enroaching on the freedoms of all people? This invasion into personal responsibility by the government will not, and will never be tolerated by the Rutanian people. |
| Date | 21:31:07, March 16, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Health of a Nation Act |
| Message | This is not an issue for personal responsibility, this is an issue for responsibility of a whole society. Smoking has to be tollerated by non- smokers, and this endangers their health. It endangers the health of smokers too, but we can let them to smoke. Non- smokers have to be protected. Also, vaccination is a mean of a public health policy, and it is not and it cannot be an issue of personal responsibility. |
| Date | 23:52:36, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Health of a Nation Act |
| Message | The things which you have stated in your argument are in fact matters of personal responsibility. It is not the place of the government to mandate such draconian laws where we demand that people curb their liberties for the sake of all society. It is the responsibility of people to make informed decisions on whether or not they want to be vaccinated, or whether or not they would like to stay in areas that have people who smoke. This is really just a wrongful growth in governmental power that will not be tolerated in Rutania. |
| Date | 00:13:54, March 18, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Health of a Nation Act |
| Message | You say: "It is the responsibility of people to make informed decisions... whether or not they would like to stay in areas that have people who smoke." What if they want to stay in areas where people do smoke, but they cannot because it endangers their health? Someone wants to visit a museum, a cinema, a theater, and people smoke there. A non- smoker then has to tollerate smoking. Or, what if someone works in office, and just cannot bear the smoke? Isn't that direct threat to his/her health, and also a violation of his fundamental human rights? In your view, you think that all people are responsible enough, that all people have enough money, that out there is an ideal situation where everyone can make a choice ("Informed decision"), but you forget that there choice doesn't exist (very often). If we don't want to give power to the government to make all important decisions for the society, then we don't need one. Then you should resign your posts imediately because there's no reason to have government at all... The society isn't just a sum of its parts. The personal responsibility doesn't exclude appropriate social responsibility. Therefore, FDD will continue to fight for this principles, because we think it really represents one of the core ideas of democracy and social well- being. |
| Date | 11:48:18, March 18, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Health of a Nation Act |
| Message | We assume that the market and the people will make the most informed decisions about their health and that it is not the government's place to artificially take money or place restrictions on anyones behaviour. It is a much GREATER wrong to have the government impinge on the liberties of the people, and a much greater violation of human rights, to be honest. |
| Date | 13:04:07, March 18, 2008 CET | From | Fair and Equal World Party | To | Debating the Health of a Nation Act |
| Message | We support Articles 1 and 2, but not Article 3. We believe there should be required vaccinations, but exemptions should be allowed. |
| Date | 21:39:21, March 18, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Health of a Nation Act |
| Message | @ULR You are assuming that the so called "No-free-lunch" theorem is valid, and that market and the people are maximally efficient regarding informations. But new scientific research shows it's not totally correct. The market (and also the society) NEEDS some form of regulation which prevents it from crash (or other unpleasant event). @Fair and Equal World Party We are ready to make some changes. Although we strongly believe in a need for vaccination for all children (as a mean of stopping diseases which ruins people's life, and also empties their pocket, and makes them not appropriate workers- if we think as capitalists, which we in FDD are not), but we can support a law (propose it) with tobaco regulations only... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 599 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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