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Bill: RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha
Details
Submitted by[?]: Republican Coalition
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2548
Description[?]:
For the past decade RSF and TJU control over Kuratha, particularity the cities of Anderinch and Thague placed it at odds with the ruling religious parties and caused the riots of recent years. The TJU proposes that semi-autonomy is granted this rogue province, which has a dominant Hulstrian and Aneist population, to restrict such future near-violence, which was only prevented by Aneist seizure of Thague and a similar situation with the RSF-Aneist coalition in Anderinch. Already there are several autonomous gated communities of Aneists in these cities, and we have no doubt that the crownland could function under its own ability to rule to some extent. The TJU propses the following: In terms of civil rights, policing, and religion Kuratha is completely autonomous. The elected leader of Kuratha, appointed by the majority party (or majority coalition, presently the CSC) of the area holds more power then those of other regions, but not as much power as the Archon and Head of Government. In terms of all other areas Kuratha functions as part of the nation. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 06:30:34, March 16, 2008 CET | From | People's Radical Party | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | If the central government cannot control the province when the administrations of both are the the same, the solution is not to grant the province more autonomy. |
Date | 11:21:53, March 16, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | Why not? |
Date | 12:01:20, March 16, 2008 CET | From | People's Radical Party | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | If the TJU can't bring a TJU-run Crownland to heel while in government, something is rotten in the state of Hulstria. |
Date | 00:58:56, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | You forget, it was the KHP who ran the government at the time of the riots, they also ran the military. The TJU endorsed the protests, we had nothing to bring to heel. The RSF also joined the protests, and they controlled the other major ministries. It was the KHP and CCP, who controlled the crownland of Hulstria and so the state, who were unable to prevent violence. |
Date | 01:40:14, March 17, 2008 CET | From | People's Radical Party | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | So bring them to heel now. You're in power. |
Date | 03:26:49, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | OOC: Well thats an interesting way of looking at that, unfortunely I don't seem to remember it that way, but who am I to say boo. |
Date | 22:16:37, March 17, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | Bring them to heel? Against what? They gained what they wanted, a secular nation. We simply propose Semi-autonomy so that this does not happen again. |
Date | 23:36:17, March 17, 2008 CET | From | People's Radical Party | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | So if they have what they wanted, what's the problem? |
Date | 19:48:01, March 18, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | "We simply propose Semi-autonomy so that this does not happen again." Forge hopes that the PRP does not only elect illiterate ministers. |
Date | 11:13:10, March 19, 2008 CET | From | People's Radical Party | To | Debating the RP - Semi-autonomy for Kuratha |
Message | The solution is rarely, if ever, autonomy. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 316 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 434 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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