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Bill: Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Anti-Communist Front
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2551
Description[?]:
| The National Malivi Party will not stand for the communist's short sighted economic and social policies. A nation does not thrive on its rights, it thrives on its people and it's people must be protected and unified. The communists seek to divide the Malivian people into classes, we seek to unite as Malivians. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The banking system.
Old value:: The government operates and owns all banks.
Current: The government operates a central bank and all other banks are private.
Proposed: The government operates a central bank and all other banks are private.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns all defence industries.
Current: The state owns all defence industries.
Proposed: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Energy regulation.
Old value:: Energy is provided by nationalised companies.
Current: Energy is provided by private companies but the prices they can charge are regulated.
Proposed: Energy is provided by private, unregulated companies but subsidies are given to those on a low income.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: All agricultural operations are state-owned and operated.
Current: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Proposed: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Current: Employers are free to fire workers who go on strike.
Proposed: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign investments.
Old value:: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Current: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Proposed: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: All industry is owned and operated by the state.
Current: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Proposed: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards labor unions.
Old value:: Trade unions may exist and all workers must have membership in one.
Current: Trade unions may exist and worker membership is voluntary.
Proposed: Trade unions may exist and worker membership is voluntary.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning phone services.
Old value:: Telephone lines are provided free of charge to all citizens.
Current: The state subsidizes the phone service of low income families, and regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Proposed: The state subsidizes the phone service of low income families but does not regulate the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change Secondary strike action.
Old value:: Any trade union can go on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Current: Secondary strike action is illegal. Workers and unions can only go on strike for their own pay and conditions.
Proposed: Only closely related trade unions can walk out on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government requires all businesses to be run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Current: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Proposed: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:47:01, March 24, 2008 CET | From | Militarist Party | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | The MP will temporarily support this bill. |
| Date | 22:58:06, March 24, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Party (Trotskyist) | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | We oppose this bill. The description of this bill is full of lies: "The National Malivi Party will not stand for the communist's short sighted economic and social policies. A nation does not thrive on its rights, it thrives on its people and it's people must be protected and unified. The communists seek to divide the Malivian people into classes, we seek to unite as Malivians." Our policies are farsighted; it is the capitalist policies that are shortsighted. A nation does thrive on its people, but the people thrive on their rights. We do not seek to divide the Malivian people into classes; one of the basic doctrines of Communism is the abolition of the class system. It is the capitalist system that divides people into classes. |
| Date | 00:19:49, March 25, 2008 CET | From | National Anti-Communist Front | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | Communism thrives on creating classes. Communists do not see Malivians they see the rich and assault them. They blame this “bourgeois” class for all their problems. They blame that class yet they are fellow Malivians. They claim that the “bourgeois” are united in a conman Terra-wide goal to oppress the “proletariat” working class. They do not see Malivia or her people they only see the “ bourgeois” and “proletariat” classes. We see Malivia and her needs. We do not see classes we see a people united for a common future. A future for Malivia. |
| Date | 00:44:17, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Party (Trotskyist) | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | If you read the works of Marx (which we completely agree with), you will see that the goal of Communism is to abolish class distinctions. As for us saying that the bourgeois is oppressing the proletariats, why do you have a problem with us calling a spade a spade? |
| Date | 01:06:45, March 25, 2008 CET | From | New Conservative Party of Malivia | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | "Our policies are farsighted; it is the capitalist policies that are shortsighted" Quite the contrary. You refer to Marxist theories, so I'm going to direct you to other theories. The "Invisible Hand" theory of Adam Smith, for example, says that an equilibrium will be struck if a market is left undistorted, which is to say that while not everyone will be equal, everyone will have as much as they need, and as much extra as the market deems they have earned. That is capitalism at it's purest. Beyond that, you need only notice that the prevailing Marx-based theories are Social Democratic ideals. Those are semi-capitalist systems, and what does that say to you about the fate of Communism? Communism isn't far-sighted, it is a corrupt, short-sighted, morally and intellectually bankrupt relic of the past clung to by some few idealists. In short, the NCPM will support these measures. |
| Date | 01:13:53, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Party (Trotskyist) | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | The "Invisible Hand" theory seems to make sense at first glance, except that it doesn't work. Look at the economy of Brazil, for example. The gap between rich and poor is larger then the Amazon River. You call that "equilibrium"? |
| Date | 01:25:56, March 25, 2008 CET | From | National Anti-Communist Front | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | And Communism works!?! I have never seen such hypocrisy! Perhaps we should look Vietnam, Cuba, or the DPRK. The DPRK the "socialist paradise" relies on UN food donations to feed it's people! All Communism has created is ineffective bureaucracies. |
| Date | 01:36:38, March 25, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Party (Trotskyist) | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | It works better then capitalism. |
| Date | 08:14:27, March 25, 2008 CET | From | New Conservative Party of Malivia | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | Oh, yes, because the ability to feed the people of one's own nation and have enough left over to feed those who call you corrupt imperalists hell-bent on their destruction is so much worse than living in abject poverty. |
| Date | 02:12:24, March 26, 2008 CET | From | Soviet Party (Trotskyist) | To | Debating the Anti-Communist Intuitive One-Economics |
| Message | How do you know that Communism does not work in Malivia? Malivia is not Vietnam. Malivia is not Cuba. Malivia is not the DPRK. How can you assume it doesn't work when it has been in effect for barely a year? Let the First Five-Year Plan run its course, then judge the success or failure of Communism in Malivia. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 328 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 172 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not implement nation renaming requests where the proposed name does not comply with the requirements set out in the Nation Renaming Guide: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6364 |
| Random quote: "History is made by angry minorities, not by passive majorities." - Fareed Zakaria |