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Bill: National Health Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: We Say So! Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2552
Description[?]:
| Accepting the health risks related to the taking of tobacco whilst also taking into consideration the allowance of choice from the individual, and whilst accepting that those surrounding the individual are forced, through no fault of their own, to inhale toxic substances through the smoking of aforementioned substance, the Government of the Second Imperial Republic of Hobrazia will, henceforth and with immediate effect, ban the consumption of smoked tobacco products outside of the confines of an individuals place of residence or those private clubs that have applied for, and had their applications accepted by local government, licensing. Should any person be found to be smoking these products outside of these areas defined, or where young children or non-smokers are present, then said person will be arrested and placed before an Imperial Magistrate on charges of manslaughter due to the corrosive nature of aforementioned products and be given a sentence in accordance to those defined by the Court. The consumption and sale of non-smoke tobacco products will be allowed to continue following already existing guidelines. Additionally, the adding of further noxious substances to tobacco products which can and will cause further toxic harm to both the individual and those surrounding is to be outlawed in order to reduce pressure on the health service and to reduce the health risks to the individual and those surrounding to a minimum. Should any individual be found to have added such substances to any product for the consumption of others then they will be arrested and charged with murder and given a sentence in accordance to that charge. Should any company be found to be adding any such substances then all assets will be stripped by the government and the company taken into liquidation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in places of employment, with the exception of places that primarily serve liquor.
Current: Smoking regulations are to be determined by local governments.
Proposed: Smoking is only allowed in private homes and clubs.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:02:59, March 26, 2008 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the National Health Act |
| Message | We would go even further and abandon all smoking. And we can follow the WSS!P on the penalties for offences also ;-) And one more thing...will the WSS!P be ready to vote on other issues where those surrounding the individual is at risk, forced, through no fault of their own, experiencing things that also should be left in the private sphere? |
| Date | 09:08:56, March 26, 2008 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the National Health Act |
| Message | Whilst the eventual, and laudable, goal would be to once again abandon smoking, we are hoping that this change to the legislation would not be so radical as to not garner support from other parties whilst also reducing the risks to those public health as a whole. In regards other areas which should be in the "private sphere" (we believe we understand) those positions do not constitute a health hazard, although with current political positioning we cannot disavow the possibility. |
| Date | 09:35:42, March 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Party | To | Debating the National Health Act |
| Message | Why should our legislation be so permissive with regard to drugs and so restrict in regard to tabacoo? This is highly inconsistent. If anything, smoking should be liberalized, not criminalized. My party votes No! |
| Date | 10:23:33, March 26, 2008 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the National Health Act |
| Message | @WSS!P: Well, it could be a mental health hazard, something that is not viewable or meassureable at first sight or even for a period of time. We should avoid these to. It seems as it is very much this that has happened for to long time and therefore we have had these ignorant parties debating the nudity/sexuality bills the HPP put up. :-) @LPP: We would very much like to restrict the use of any drug, tobacco, alcohol etc. to a minimum. |
| Date | 14:29:41, March 26, 2008 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the National Health Act |
| Message | To the right honourable members of the LPP, we would like to point out the lack of inconsistency within our laws. Our lax drug laws are as such as the consumption of said drugs does harm to the user only. We would point out that our tobacco laws are also lax, with tobacco being freely available to all adults who wish to purchase and consume tobacco products. The difference between lax drug laws and smoking is simple: consuming drugs harms the individual, smoking causes harm to those surrounding the individual. It is this point that makes the difference. Consuming tobacco is not the issue, nor is there any attempt in this legislation to restrict the consumption of tobacco. This legislation merely bans the smoking of products that cause harm to those surrounding an individual consuming those products. This does not merely include tobacco, but any other toxin or drug that needs to be smoked. In regards its liberalisation, we could not support such a measure as this would only increase risks to public health and restrict the right of the majority to breath clean air. |
| Date | 10:00:18, March 27, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Party | To | Debating the National Health Act |
| Message | To the honourable members of the WSSP : The LPP recognizes the goodwill behind this bill. We understand the WSSP worries about public health and we do understand the issues associated with tobacco consumption not only to the individual but also to non-smokers. Still, we believe that the same reasoning applies to drugs. Drug consumption is bad for the health of those who take them, but it is also bad for many people who do not take them. You can ask any familly in Hobrazia with a drug addict what is the effect of that addiction in the members of the familly. I am sure you will agree that at least close familiars are also affected by drug consuption. Still, the state grants the individual the freedom to decide if they want to do something which is bad for them and for them and for their familly. The state does not decide that for the individual. We believe in this principle. Citizens are educated by the State, and therefore should be smart enough to know what is best for them and for those around them. If they are not, that is a problem of the educational system. In no circunstance my party will vote YES in a bill that takes away from the citizen the power to decide what is best for them. Regards to all debating parties. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 153 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 247 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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