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Bill: Defense of Creativity
Details
Submitted by[?]: Protectorate Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2041
Description[?]:
Creativity deserves to be rewarded. Due to our current system the best and brightest of our citizens leave our land to earn their fortunes elsewhere. We need to attract these people to our lands not drive them away. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Protection of original works of technology and arts.
Old value:: Technology and art are part of the commons and are not protected by copyright.
Current: Works of technology and art are protected by copyright.
Proposed: Works of technology and art are protected by copyright.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
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From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | Perhaps the Protectorate Party should consider changing their name to something more appropriate, such as Perpetually Facing Backwards Party, or Dead Set Against Progress Party. |
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From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | I am curious how the Leviathan party plans on supporting every soul who writes a novel, or play or even short story. Do we pay by the piece of set stipend. I could probably write a novel in a few weeks, if I don't care about quality. If we care about quality who decides this? If we don't then I am getting paid the same rate as the best selling author. |
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From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | Pardon the comaprison, but it was made more for a shorthand point then accuracy. Are we paying for quality? If so who decides, if not what is to stop anyone form becoming a novelist. |
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From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | My point exactly. In the method we currently have anyone can write and get paid for it. So I quit my job become a novelist, churn out the required number of books to keep my stipend, and live the good life. A serious author/playwright/artist would draw the same stipend for real work. |
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From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | Whereas in the method you propose, I quit my job, churn out a few trashy thrillers or romance novels, and live the good life. While a serious author/playwright/artist waits until he/she's dead before making any money from real work. |
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From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | But at least you have to write something that makes enough sense to sell. With the exposure available currently, a gifted writer of any sort will get enough to live off of. The problems of the past where related to getting the break of getting your work published, now there are enough methods to publish that one can get the work out. If it is any good (or even if is not) people will by it. Don't knock word of mouth, as a way of getting work purchased. |
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From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | It's worth noting that in order to obtain a creative commons license you must release your work professionally, which means at the very least there must be some outlet that will publish your work to obtain a government stipend. There are easier ways to make more money than this, which is surely the most effective control against abuse. |
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From | Free Reform Coalition (FRP) | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | Copyright is a form of property ownership, if we cannot guarantee property rights then we will stifle our ability to grow economically. Furthermore, our national identity will be taken away from us and put in the hands of the government. It is not the government that determines our national identity, it is the people. |
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From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | Property is theft. And national identity belongs neither to individuals nor to the government, but, as you said, to the people. |
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From | Radical Centrists | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | After much internal discussion [ie seemingly interminable bickering], the party has agreed to support this bill. |
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From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Defense of Creativity | Message | So who is going to publish a work if their is no copyright attached. Not a whole lot of incentive to put out a book if another company can just grab the book, publish another edition and take advantage of the editting, marketing, etc and thus get a better profit. Without copy protection there will be no publishing industry. Or is everything electronic (a commons website run by the governent) and no one profits from a published work, again we return to anything gets published and thus everyone gets a stipend. |
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yes | Total Seats: 23 |
no | Total Seats: 72 |
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