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Bill: Saving Lives Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rutanian Democratic Forum
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2556
Description[?]:
| This is the bill which will ease the regulations in the area of organ donation. When someone's life is in danger, it is the human duty to help. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning organ donations.
Old value:: Organ donations are legal with personal consent.
Current: Unless otherwise stated, consent is assumed.
Proposed: Unless otherwise stated, consent is assumed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:32:53, March 31, 2008 CET | From |  Commonwealth Party | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | We dont see anything wrong with the current law |
| Date | 02:20:54, March 31, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | It's not anything wrong, but it eases saving lives when organs are very needed. Unless someone explicitly says :"I don't want to donate", this person is a potential organ donator. |
| Date | 20:46:17, March 31, 2008 CET | From |  Freedom Party | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | The state has no right to nor indeed any claim to people's bodies, no matter how 'noble' the purpose. |
| Date | 00:30:54, April 01, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | In your opinion..:) But, in our proposal it doesn't stand that the _state_ makes any claims to people's bodies, it just states that hospitals and doctors can use organs from recently deceased people to save other people, unless that person, or someone related, has something against that. They can, however, anyway ask for permission, that is moral and doctors do that. |
| Date | 14:39:43, April 01, 2008 CET | From | Fair and Equal World Party | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | Under the current law, doctors need to ask a potential donor or a close relative for permission to donate an organ. Under the proposed law, doctors have two options available to them. They can ask a potential donor or relative if they would oppose donating an organ, or they can not ask at all, and assume consent without giving any opportunity for denial. If a doctor chooses the first option, no time will be saved because the doctor still takes the time to ask for permission. If a doctor chooses the second option, it'll save time, but it will also unfairly violate the potential donor's rights. I don't think saving time this way is the RDF's goal. Therefore, since our current law prevents the possibility of the second option, and is just as efficient, (or inefficient), as the proposed law, we oppose this bill. |
| Date | 17:11:16, April 01, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | But, if the pacient (or someone related) explicitly says, that he doesn't want to be a donor, then doctor can always go for option two, and it will never violate potential donor's right. It's not just about saving time, it's about increasing probability that someone stays alive if he needs organs for transplantation. |
| Date | 08:30:21, April 02, 2008 CET | From | Socialist Green Party | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | I see nothing wrong with the current law it is as democratic as it needs to be any other system will result in many problems. |
| Date | 13:50:20, April 02, 2008 CET | From | Fair and Equal World Party | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | But if someone related to the potential donor is not informed of the donation, they will then have no opportunity to stop the donation from happening. The doctor could then go through with the donation anyway, if he/she wanted to. However unlikely, it is a possibility under the proposed law. |
| Date | 18:50:06, April 02, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | Well, if some person explicitly wants not to be a donor, then he or she has to say it, to its close relatives (which are contacted as a standard procedure) or he or she has to make an official statement. Even non- official would suffice. We want to prevent a shortage of necessary organs - in saving lives often minutes and second šlay most important role. |
| Date | 18:50:28, April 02, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Saving Lives Act |
| Message | ...n saving lives often minutes and second Play most important role... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 159 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 440 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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