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Bill: First SPU Bill -Return of secularism.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Republican Coalition
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2555
Description[?]:
| KHP propaganda would have the legislature believe that Christianity is the dominant way of life in the nation, this is completely false, the beliefs being as follows on religion: fanatical secular 14.5% extreme secular 13.3% convinced secular 6.7% moderate secular 8.7% secular-leaning 6.3% religious-leaning 8.1% moderate religious 8.8% convinced religious 9.9% extreme religious 13.2% fanatical religious 10.5% Of these only the non-secular (about 50%) are religious at all, let alone the said 70% Christians. Of these 50% it has been in the past been modeled that the top three ranks are Lutherans, so about 33%. The KHP and PRP, in the years in which the old CSC (Centrist Secular Coalition) collapsed, leaving only these two parties in power, replaced religion in the government, turning it into a political matter. Aeneas, in his first decision as leader of the old TJU (now SPU) is proposing this infatuation of the government with religion be ended, together with the brainwashing of youth in education. It should be their decision what to believe, not their parent's. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: Wearing religious clothing or religious symbols in public is illegal.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:14:39, March 30, 2008 CET | From |  Royal Socialist Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the First SPU Bill -Return of secularism. |
| Message | We oppose this bill |
| Date | 19:30:13, March 30, 2008 CET | From | Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei | To | Debating the First SPU Bill -Return of secularism. |
| Message | Yea... so last we checked theres a difference between the seperation of church and state and antheism, but maybe thats just us. |
| Date | 19:49:09, March 30, 2008 CET | From | Donner Party | To | Debating the First SPU Bill -Return of secularism. |
| Message | We agree with #1, but not 2, 3, and 4...especially #3. If a religion wants to set up a school, the government should have no say in the matter. |
| Date | 20:30:33, March 30, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the First SPU Bill -Return of secularism. |
| Message | Antheism? Interesting term You will note that all the above proposals are about separating church and state |
| Date | 20:31:40, March 30, 2008 CET | From | Royal Socialist Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the First SPU Bill -Return of secularism. |
| Message | No. Not allowing religious schools is anti-religion, as is not allowing prayers in schools. We agree with article one - we are against the rest |
| Date | 20:40:36, March 30, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the First SPU Bill -Return of secularism. |
| Message | It is not anti-religion, it is anti-indoctrination and ani-restriction of freedom of thought for youths. The youth should be able to choose how to believe and not have teachers and parents force them into one belief or another. |
| Date | 15:07:35, March 31, 2008 CET | From | FIBB Party | To | Debating the First SPU Bill -Return of secularism. |
| Message | We are with #1 as well but not the others. |
| Date | 00:37:39, April 01, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the First SPU Bill -Return of secularism. |
| Message | Returned, with two articles separated. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 172 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 328 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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