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Bill: Religious Schools Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nacia Repuvlican partio de Kobura
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2556
Description[?]:
| Choice |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are not allowed.
Current: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Proposed: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:36:57, April 03, 2008 CET | From |  Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | There the Republican Party goes again hand in hand with Paedophiles and Brainwasher's. |
| Date | 10:48:50, April 03, 2008 CET | From |  Nacia Repuvlican partio de Kobura | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | Brain Washers that's the RPC and the DLP saying that a welfare state is better for an economy than a Capitalists state. And the RPC party should back this Bill that Party's seems to think everything someone wants to do is alright. Such as : Prostitution, Alcohol Sales for all ages, Same thing with Porn, If you choose to not go to school you can stay home all day and play non Rated video Games, you can carry an uzi you can burn our flag you can come to cobura for safe haven. You can do many things but if you are the police well you can use stones against those uzis and if you are a terrorist don't worry we won't Kill you you'll be safe here we will protect you. And if your a pregnant women don't worry you can kill that 8 1/2 month fetus anytime you want. This Bill is about choice and the RPC use to be about freedom of choice. No one is being forced to go to attend a Religious school. They Choose to attend |
| Date | 11:04:14, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | A welfare state is demonstrably good for an economy. Unemplyed workers who would otherwise starve, can purchase basic goods to feed their families, thus injecting cash into the economy. That's a rather simple and unarguable concept. As for religious 'schools', this has nothing to do with 'choice' - that oft misused word. Religion has no place in school, as the two aspects, theology and education are simply incompatible. Teaching children religion is not giving them an education, it is indoctrinating them into a particular belief system and hierarchical structure of control. You say no one is forced to go to these 'schools' but they are. Children of religious parents will be forced to attend these 'schools' either through coercion or other means. The choice, like most capitalist 'choices', is a non-existent choice. The RPC is about liberation, and the religion is one of the major obstacles to liberation. |
| Date | 11:05:04, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | Oh and stop saying the police can't defend themselves - they have specially trained firearms units. Liar. |
| Date | 13:11:50, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | The Republican Party has shown it is out of touch yet again, out of touch with the socail democratic, progressive, asprirations of Coburans, out of touch with the peoples view on moral and social issues and is out of touch with Coburan society. |
| Date | 16:44:28, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Nacia Repuvlican partio de Kobura | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | Specially Trained fire arms is short for rock launchers don't work as well against Uzi's, ,Rocket Launchers grenades Extra and if its up to the RPC the police can hardly defend themselves. The RPC endorsees the idea of mentally ill persons caring and concealing all types of weapons the police have no access to. And Back to Welfare sorry dependence on just the Government = Disaster. Look at New Orleans hurricane Katrina that shows you what total dependence on the government dose. When the Government Fails you than you have to fend for yourself and if you don't know how than god Help you because no one else can. Hurricane Katrina happened August 29 and most of the people didn't leave because the were awaiting there Welfare checks comming on the 1st or 2nd so they stayed. Some lost their lives all because they didn't want to miss that check and if they left they wouldn't be able to get that money for a few days that's the sad part of a Welfare state when your so dependant on the Government you'll wait out a pending Hurricane after being warned to get your check. Now look years later and they are still working on homes because again they expected the Government would just fix the homes they live in.Its very sad but a sad truth people shouldn't just depend on the government. The People in New Orleans have been financed for their whole lives by the government and it cost some on them their lives. Thats what is wrong with a welfare state. |
| Date | 19:19:13, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | No, you idiot, specially trained firearms units are exactly that - SPECIALLY TRAINED FIREARMS UNITS. THEY HAVE GUNS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL. Your comments on Katrina would be comical if they weren't so perplexing. The reason it happened in the first place was because your heroes - the Bush administration - sold off and hollowed out the government, leaving it a an empty shell. People couldn't be evacuated because of a lack of equipment and supplies (buses didn't have fuel, etc), and that's just scratching the surface. |
| Date | 22:45:12, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Nacia Repuvlican partio de Kobura | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | Excuse me their is no call for insults that's not necessary and yes say what you will and say want you want because the facts don't lie. The people in New Orleans were told to leave most didn't because and I quote my check would be their at my house on the 3rd now sorry that's the facts also the city left over 100 buses parked in the lots empty and they could have mobilized them if they choose to and no they didn't because again the people wanted to stay so their was no need to take bus loads out of New Orleans. Katrina Was not a political mistake of anyone it was the Dependence on the Government that kept those people home waiting for a check that never came that's the facts read some books. And lets be fair what kind of Specialty firearm works against an Uzi, or grenades, or Rocket launchers? Come on you want to give the police little PEE shooters and hope they can win. On the other hand you want to give mentally ill persons guns are you OK? |
| Date | 22:46:22, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Nacia Repuvlican partio de Kobura | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | Excuse me their is no call for insults that's not necessary and yes say what you will and say want you want because the facts don't lie. The people in New Orleans were told to leave most didn't because and I quote my check would be their at my house on the 3rd now sorry that's the facts also the city left over 100 buses parked in the lots empty and they could have mobilized them if they choose to and no they didn't because again the people wanted to stay so their was no need to take bus loads out of New Orleans. Katrina Was not a political mistake of anyone it was the Dependence on the Government that kept those people home waiting for a check that never came that's the facts read some books. And lets be fair what kind of Specialty firearm works against an Uzi, or grenades, or Rocket launchers? Come on you want to give the police little PEE shooters and hope they can win. On the other hand you want to give mentally ill persons guns are you OK? |
| Date | 22:47:01, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Nacia Repuvlican partio de Kobura | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | sorry |
| Date | 23:06:05, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | No. Stop trying to paint a picture of lazy, black, welfare mothers and look at reality. Most people who stayed behind did so because of a wide variety of reasons, including: a lack of private transport, a lack of finances, a belief that their homes or the buildings in which they planned to stay offered sufficient protection, and so on. So, please get off your damn high horse, and stop blaming the victims. "Low-income residents had fewer choices with respect to how to prepare for the imminent arrival of Katrina. Since the storm was at the end of the month and many low-income residents of New Orleans live from paycheck to paycheck, economic resources for evacuating were particularly scarce. Furthermore, low-income New Orleanians are those who are least likely to own vehicles, making voluntary evacuation more costly and logistically more difficult." Maybe you should start reading? It was being a low-income citizen that kept people from evacuating. That is an undisputed fact, owing to the many studies done on the matter. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with 'dependence on government' simply because there was no government to depend on. They didn't give a shit about those people, and neither do you. "In fact, the people hit hardest by the flooding were also those from neighborhoods where poverty was most concentrated as a result of the concentration of federally subsidized housing (Katz 2005). Not coincidently, they were least able to leave the city without assistance." Do you know what stratification is? You might want to read up on it, because it was the FUNDAMENTAL issue when it comes to Katrina. ------------------ "And lets be fair what kind of Specialty firearm works against an Uzi, or grenades, or Rocket launchers?" Standard issue firearms, you know, MP5 submachine guns, M4 Carbines, assault rifles, etc. State institutions are not exactly lacking in the weapons department. "Come on you want to give the police little PEE shooters and hope they can win." What the fuck are you mumbling about, son? Do you have any idea what kind of firearms are issued to these special units? Its the stuff I listed above. Top grade weapons, not cheap Eastern Bloc imports like the criminals use. Don't try and speak like you know me, because it just fucking irritates me. A submachine gun is not a pee shooter, so stop being ignorant. |
| Date | 23:06:59, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | So, yesterday I smacked down DLP. Today it was RP's turn. Who wants to get knocked out tomorrow? :P |
| Date | 02:37:34, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Nacia Repuvlican partio de Kobura | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | Sorry Cuzz I can't read that much today All i know is you seem very bitter at the fact that welfare states aren't the answer to everything sorry to inform you of that but hey someone had ta. And I never Said Lazy black you added that I would say that maybe if all the people aren't just given hand outs they may have a better chance at not being lazy . Ya know Weezz can't fix everything with big government sorry to inform ya of dat also but likes i said someone gatzs ya set ya straight. I will try to read the rest of your ramblings over the weekend so i might have somemo to ad lata on |
| Date | 12:54:33, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | Cuzz? Weezz? Gatz? Ta? Dat? Somemo? Ad? Lata? What the fuck is this shit? English motherfucker, do you speak it? But, yes, of course, just play down the fact you got your arse handed to you by somehow who knows what they're talking about. I'm sure it must be very difficult for you to actually confront someone who wasn't hideously indoctrinated like yourself. See, some of us actually go and search for the truth, then make a conclusion. You simply make a conclusion then make shit up to justify it. It doesn't work, and its blindingly obvious. |
| Date | 16:14:01, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Nacia Repuvlican partio de Kobura | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | No |
| Date | 16:32:30, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Religious Schools Bill |
| Message | Flawless victory. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 162 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 276 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 62 |
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