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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of May 2556

Details

Submitted by[?]: Likaton Coalition of the Willing

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2557

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:29:30, April 04, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageAs always, we are glad to support in any capacity.

Date21:33:48, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageA minute ago the APOL were saying that they wouldn't serve with the PCA, who you described as "commie rebel terrorist scum."

-Can your pary pick a stance and stick with it for just one year, perhaps?

But again, the cabinet is poorly designed/

Date21:34:34, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageIt's strange that you don't even need the PCA, yet you include them?

We think the PCA should vote yes to this and allow this cabinet.

Date21:35:42, April 04, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageHeh. Who said artists and poets had to be consistent?

According to the CPL, any cabinet that they don't like, is poorly designed. It sounds like a bag of grapefruits, to us.

Date21:36:22, April 04, 2008 CET
From Likaton Coalition of the Willing
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageWe are giving them a chance. We don't feel they are the best choice, but you don't want in, so...

Date21:36:55, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageThe PCA votes against.

Bit of advice to the APOL- you have to propose a cabinet that includes both the PCA and the LRA because they are 99% the same according the electoral history.

Date21:38:26, April 04, 2008 CET
FromGeneral Confederation of Labour
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageWe haven't voted yet... but we're abstaining because of our coalition with the LRA.

Date21:38:30, April 04, 2008 CET
From Likaton Coalition of the Willing
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageThat is precisely why we won't. We don't need both sets...

Date21:39:22, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
Message"We haven't voted yet... but we're abstaining because of our coalition with the LRA."

Actually you voted against but then changed your vote to abstain.

Date21:40:20, April 04, 2008 CET
From Likaton Coalition of the Willing
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessagePCA, if you choose to ignore this offer of a power share, we can't guarantee you'll get another...

Date21:40:34, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
Message"That is precisely why we won't. We don't need both sets..."

Yeh, but it's the PCLRA. It's the one party really. There's a 99.99% correlation.

Date21:41:34, April 04, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageActually, CPL - votes are not binding until a bill passes, fails, is drawn, or expires.

So - when the PCA say they 'haven't voted yet'... that's not wrong.

Date21:41:43, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
Message"PCA, if you choose to ignore this offer of a power share, we can't guarantee you'll get another... "

They already got one that gives them much more power. They would be mad to support a bill that cuts their power in two.

Again we thin the PCA should support this bill.

Date21:41:53, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
Messageand so should the LRA.

Date21:42:16, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageActually, we're going to support the cabinet!

Date21:43:14, April 04, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageIt still won't stand unless the PCA supports it. (OOC: At least, I think...)

Date21:45:01, April 04, 2008 CET
From Likaton Coalition of the Willing
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
Message(OOC: correct)

We urge the PCA to accept this olive branch. Do the Maths....think of the alternatives...

Date21:45:43, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageCome on PCA, vote yes - for the good of the nation.

Date21:48:22, April 04, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageWe urge the PCA to vote as their conscience dictates. If they honestly believe they must abstain, then do it. We ask only that the PCA don't sell their vote.

Date21:58:24, April 04, 2008 CET
FromGeneral Confederation of Labour
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageWe will vote yes because we want the Confederalist Coalition to be a part of the government. We will share our 2 ministries with the LRA.

Date22:01:18, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageOhhh this is brilliant.

The PCA just surrendered two cabinet ministers and booted the LRA (who has 5 ministers) out of government. Fantastic. Well done PCA.

Say bye bye to the Conferalist led Coalition

Date22:06:51, April 04, 2008 CET
FromGeneral Confederation of Labour
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageWhat? The coalition controls 2 ministers! How much do you control?

Date22:10:02, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessagePCA, the other cabinet being voted opon gives your party 4 positions and gives the LRA 5 positions. I mean, why do you think we support it?

By voting for this cabinet - you cancel the last cabinet - you can only vote for one.

I won't explain it any further because it's so hilarious.

Date22:12:45, April 04, 2008 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageYou can support any number of cabinets, actually. It might be interesting when they all come due, of course - but since they were introduced at different times, absent re-elections, they will just cycle through as they come up.

Date22:15:15, April 04, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic National Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2556
MessageYeh, but this, being the latest proposal, will be the ultimate coalition (provided no others get proposed and supported).

I'll shut up now because it's so funny. I just want to see if a certain party realises the mistake.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 575

no
 

Total Seats: 91

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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