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Bill: Realistic Military Policy
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rationalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2112
Description[?]:
| Due to the unreliable nature of biological and chemical ordinances we see no reason to continue stockpiling them. We support continued research in these areas for defensive purposes, and will not currently reduce nuclear arsenals which could be used as deterrence. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Current: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Proposed: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:12:13, September 16, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Realistic Military Policy |
| Message | No. This just grants us the power to build them in the first place, as of now technically we have none. So do not use words like stockpilng unless you can show numbers that Telamon has started bulding them. Do not worry about numbers, as Defense Minister that is my worry, on how much we need and their maintenance. |
| Date | 15:51:00, September 16, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Realistic Military Policy |
| Message | That's not my arguement with them, what I said was they are basically useless on the battlefield and (in the case of biological) unworkable strategically |
| Date | 19:41:21, September 16, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Realistic Military Policy |
| Message | They are deterrents if anything. Technically it is a clean way to kill all people in a military base, while the base is active, as to capture it. So there's a strategy right there. As said, they are useful, and although they might be used a last resort, a last resort is the last thing you have, when losing a war to facists who want to occupy our glorious nation. |
| Date | 20:21:44, September 16, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Realistic Military Policy |
| Message | Clearly you overestimate the effectiveness of these ordinences. No chemical weapon could kill an entire military base without destroying the usefulness of the land and no biological weapon is 100% effective, nor are they predictable. They are entirely useless as deterrent as they are unable to kill off large numbers of people without significant risk to Telamon. They are expensive to maintain should we decide to stockpile them and difficult to deploy. |
| Date | 20:53:57, September 16, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Realistic Military Policy |
| Message | Clearly you do not understand how retaliation works. Regardless of what you think, i shall decide how many of what kind of WMD's we have. And suggest to the HoS and HoG, whoever they are at the time, when i think they be deployed. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 50 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 165 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 40 |
| Random fact: "Jezvraljogadsrlji" means "Social" in the Jelbic languages. |
| Random quote: "We live in a world in which politics has replaced philosophy." - Martin L. Gross |