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Bill: Animal Rights Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: Utilolibertarian Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2113

Description[?]:

Hereby resolved to recognize the rights of animals and their owners in Deltaria:

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date02:03:37, September 17, 2005 CET
FromDoron Akigansk Kommunist Parti (MLN)
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageHeavens no. For many reasons, such as preventing the spread of foreign disease into our national livestock, etc.

Date03:26:25, September 17, 2005 CET
FromNational Socialist Party of Deltaria
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageAgreed with the CPD. Against.

Date04:31:24, September 17, 2005 CET
FromMarchioness Party
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageThe MP is also against.

Date08:48:49, September 17, 2005 CET
FromSedliacke Povstanie
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageThe CP made a good point.

Date21:12:52, September 17, 2005 CET
FromUtilolibertarian Party
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageIf the exotic animal clause is removed due to well-founded concerns about disease, will people support the second clause about wild animals?

Date23:01:13, September 17, 2005 CET
FromDoron Akigansk Kommunist Parti (MLN)
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageThe Communist Party finds it hard to get enthusiastic about Article 2. The Right to own Wild Animals sounds ridiculous. We'd probably vote against, simply due to the dangers of safety.

Date03:05:59, September 18, 2005 CET
FromUtilolibertarian Party
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageThe term "wild animal" is just an arbitrary distinction. All animals were once "wild." The natural state of the animal is to be "wild."

And furthermore, owners are liable for safety precautions.

Date03:35:04, September 18, 2005 CET
FromDoron Akigansk Kommunist Parti (MLN)
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageThey may be liable for safety precautions, but that doesn't mean some tiger won't eat a guest at some point. It just means the owner will have to pay injuries.

Date04:13:47, September 18, 2005 CET
FromNational Socialist Party of Deltaria
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
Message"The government maintains a list of dangerous wild animals which may not be kept as pets; other wild animals may be kept as pets."

This appears far saner to the NSP.

Date06:05:48, September 18, 2005 CET
FromUtilolibertarian Party
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
MessageBut dangerous is just in the eye of the beholder. We have churches in Deltaria where people worship with venomous snakes, I've seen people who keep tigers in the same rooms as their babies.

Date07:14:25, September 18, 2005 CET
FromNational Socialist Party of Deltaria
ToDebating the Animal Rights Bill
Message.... and the fact that people are stupid morons somehow makes brown snakes and tigers less dangerous? Might I point out the death rate of snake-handling ministers in Deltaria? The cost of tending to ministers who've lost arms and legs from non-fatal bites? And as the keeping of wild animals as pets is banned, the NSP would like to know exactly what kind of criminal filth the speaker for the ULP has been associating with.

In the interests of protecting the children of Deltaria, the NSP reccomends that the ULP speaker is immediately taken into police custody to be interrogated for the names of these irresponsible and dangerous child-abusers, so that they may be brought to justice and their children removed from such a hazardous home environment and placed into suitable state care.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 44

no
    

Total Seats: 56

abstain
   

Total Seats: 0


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