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Bill: Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education
Details
Submitted by[?]: Aldurian Protectorate Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2567
Description[?]:
| Mustafa Hemel is the leader of the MHP and has a vision for a new state in Kafuristan. A new moderate society must prevail against the extremists of the left who have sought to interfere in the lives of the people. Mustafa Hemel proposes a new secular state where the religious views of the people are accepted, whether they have any, or not. The ban on religion is deeply offensive to many, and must be overturned. Therefore Hemel, as leader of the MHP, proposes the following, that certain religious bodies should be free to run schools, and parents should be free to choose to send their children to such schools. Additional regulations will be in place to ensure that the same teaching standards are in place as in public schools. The following will be allowed to run schools; *Muslims *Jews *Catholic Church (Eastern Rite) *Terran Catholic Church We are not sure yet about allowing Tritists to run schools, or other Christian denominations which are not native to Majatra. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are not allowed.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:18:12, April 25, 2008 CET | From |  Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | We shouldn't mix superstition and education. |
| Date | 17:19:06, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | One thing we agree on. |
| Date | 17:24:30, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Aldurian Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | Why not? It is a good environment for children to learn in, and many parents will wish to have their children learn in such an environment. If this doesn't pass we shall probably propose home schooling as an option. |
| Date | 17:26:10, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | Religion is just a dogmatic disease which shall ultimately ruin our fine nation from its ignorance and idiocy, which rich people actually favor. |
| Date | 17:27:24, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Aldurian Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | Sounds like our definition of Communism. |
| Date | 17:27:57, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | Because the education of Kafuristans children shouldn't be mixed with the attempts of foolish and superstitious people to promote their beliefs. |
| Date | 17:29:39, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | That's capitalism in an Arab state. You see, religion creates fanaticism and dogmatism, preventing people from opening their minds and continuing with their lives, buying everything the rich sell them, from words to products to legislation. Religion teaches people to accept something else, which we disgrace. Normally, capitalism enforces religion, whereas communism restricts and bans it. This is not the case. |
| Date | 17:29:57, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Aldurian Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | But there would be regulations to prevent such practice. |
| Date | 17:30:23, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | For capitalism I mean. |
| Date | 17:35:01, April 25, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | CPK: We used to have a good number of Pastafarians in Kafuristan didn't we? |
| Date | 00:02:47, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | No, we should not aid the spread of such ridiculous beliefs in our society, and there must be a ban in the brainwashing of children with such superstitious nonsense. |
| Date | 00:13:42, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Communist Party of Kafuristan | To | Debating the Hemelism Bill: Secularism - Education |
| Message | Pastafarianism was one of the first organized religions in Kafuristan, and even then we worked to wipe them out. I could understand, however, if it's since gone extinct, what with the many religious purges now and again in Kafuristan. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 136 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 457 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 122 |
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