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Bill: Logical Age of Adulthood
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alliance for Natural Law
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2114
Description[?]:
| 15 is the maximum age at which teenagers complete puberty, and the least arbitrary of all arbitrary lines that can be drawn for adulthood, if still more arbitrary than desireable. However due to the constraints of the international system. (OOC: the game), let us have the age of adulthood at 16. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age at which a person is considered an adult (limited between 12 and 24).
Old value:: 18
Current: 18
Proposed: 16
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:06:05, September 17, 2005 CET | From | Alliance for Natural Law | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | I'd rather do twelve, but that only for voting (or better yet, no restrictions on voting). I do indeed see 14 or 15 as the logical age of adulthood, at least for consent and such. More inclined to 15 as I think in 12s, and 15 ins 1 1/4 twelefths, not as neat as 18, but not as unfair either. |
| Date | 22:39:51, September 17, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberty Party | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | Yes |
| Date | 01:24:44, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Deadly Buzz Party | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | How are 12 year olds or even 15 year olds competant adults? Even 18 is just at the edge of acceptability for me. From personal experience (most) 15 year olds are nowhere near mature enough for aduthood. |
| Date | 02:29:40, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Alliance for Natural Law | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | Rather paternalistic, aren't we DBP? |
| Date | 16:52:39, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party of Valruzia | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | We agree 12 is nowhere near adulthood - 16-18 is the better choice. |
| Date | 19:18:29, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Alliance for Natural Law | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | This isn't 12 or even 15 5hough, it's 16. (The minimum that the game will allow). Will you vote for this LPV? With DBP against and CPV inactive, one other party's no would kill this until we have a new election. Therefore we must know how you, LD and RP will vote. |
| Date | 21:02:32, September 18, 2005 CET | From |  Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | I'm in favour :) |
| Date | 03:18:42, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party of Valruzia | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | Change it to 17, or lower the education age. |
| Date | 05:40:08, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Alliance for Natural Law | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | Well, I voted against raising the education age, I did a bill for that anywhen though. |
| Date | 21:37:32, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Party of Valruzia | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | okay, we will support both proposals now |
| Date | 22:35:36, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | I see only 1 proposal??? |
| Date | 23:18:52, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Alliance for Natural Law | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | Two seperate bills, as those who vote for one might not vote for the other. This way. . . |
| Date | 22:44:25, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Alliance for Natural Law | To | Debating the Logical Age of Adulthood |
| Message | Wow, wait a sec, this isn't a constitutional amendment? Ahh, at least it'll pass unless ZIP votes against the measure that they proposed elsewhere. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 82 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 27 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 92 |
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