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Bill: JPC - Power to the law
Details
Submitted by[?]: Judiciary Patriciate Coalition
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2567
Description[?]:
| Lending the law the power to judge as it sees fit. The JPC now controls the Judiciary, and in such a position it is looking for complete reform, which it can only achieve without red tape. The bill deals with several things: Power - Giving the judiciary more flexibility with judgments and sentencing Economics - Removing excessive government spending, especially pending cuts Delegation - Removing such minor crimes as bruising the egos of others, the judiciary must concentrate on other cases. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Current: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Proposed: The police may disperse a group without giving any reason.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Current: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Proposed: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: Dealing with illegal aliens is left to local governments.
Current: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Proposed: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation is never paid for by the state.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Libel laws.
Old value:: Individuals may sue over falsehoods printed on them.
Current: Individuals may sue over falsehoods printed on them.
Proposed: The nation has no laws regarding libel.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Slander laws.
Old value:: Individuals may sue over malicious falsehoods spoken about them.
Current: Individuals may sue over malicious falsehoods spoken about them.
Proposed: The nation has no laws regarding slander.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The legality of slavery.
Old value:: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Current: Slavery and the slave trade are illegal.
Proposed: The slave trade is illegal, but slavery is legal as a punishment.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:36:24, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | Many of these proposals deal with money. The state cannot afford a vast force of lawyers for our poor population (which is very large), nor can we afford illegal immigrants or the search for them. Education schemes for prisoners is simply unwise waste of resources. |
| Date | 01:05:23, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | You seem to think we're even poorer than I do. |
| Date | 01:08:07, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | OOC: I compare us favorably to sun-Saharan africa, perhaps the north african arab states (Tunisia, Lybia) or the Syrian states. Even they have extreme problems with poverty and so have subsidized legal systems and government. |
| Date | 10:44:49, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | OOC: That's a mistake; we are actually not that poor... |
| Date | 17:26:09, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | OOC: I have been told that Kafuristan is the only nation on Terra which successfully RPs a poor nation, it is half the reason I came here, for the unique RP in this respect. |
| Date | 17:43:38, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | OOC: That is indeed true, but I believe we are not actually categorized with the examples you stated. |
| Date | 22:01:26, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | OOC: Then who is? |
| Date | 22:40:19, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | Saudi Arabia is the nation I've always thought we were compared to. With hints of Turkey thrown in. |
| Date | 11:13:01, April 27, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | Exactly, in a way. |
| Date | 21:44:14, April 27, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the JPC - Power to the law |
| Message | I don't really see that much of a difference from the north African Arab states/Syria and Saudi Arabia. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 271 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 444 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Cultural Protocols should generally be reflective of RP conducted within the nation and should not significantly alter or modify the ethnic, religious or linguistic composition without considerable and reasonable role-play or other justification. |
| Random quote: "If we cannot, by reason, by influence, by example, by strenuous effort, and by personal sacrifice, mend the bad places of civilization, we certainly cannot do it by force." - Auberon Herbert |