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Bill: Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2114
Description[?]:
| The AAP is worried that, under the current scheme, regional schools may have very different 'quality' issues, with regard to qualifications issued. In order that ALL Likatonians be able to claim equivalence for qualification, the AAP believes it is essential that ALL higher education facilites should use ONE core measure of regulation, which will be the equal of qualifications obtained anywhere else outside of Likatonia. In order that this be possible, private higher education institutions must conform to a national regulation-body, just as public higher education institutions do. Note: Amendment Language: The AAP wishes it to be made clear, the 'regulation' ONLY extends as far as credit for courses... and whether a given course 'qualifies' for equal credit as those taught 'universally'. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government allows public and private higher education institutions to coexist with self-regulation for those that are private.
Current: The government allows private higher education but regulates it to meet nationally set standards.
Proposed: The government allows private higher education but regulates it to meet nationally set standards.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:15:25, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | No, let the private sector swim free!! The whole point of the private sector is to have schools free from government interference. It is already a well known fact that nearly all private schools perform better than their state equivalents, so why the need for further regulation? |
| Date | 00:06:53, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | We agree that at the compulsary levels of education (ie primary and secondary) private schools need regulation to ensure that core material is taught to all students and that no falsehoods are being taught. However, at the level of higher education it is impractical to regulate all courses. Higher education covers a wide range of courses, not just at universities, not all of which the government will approve of, or at least be able to specify content for. Adults have the choice of what they want to learn, if they want to learn at all, and the private sector allows for all needs. As long as the content of the course is not misrepresented to the students, we have to let people teach what they like. |
| Date | 01:16:41, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | The AAP agrees that freedoms should not be intruded upon... but, if a course is to be ACCREDITED, surely it must have some regulatable material? Surely there must be some 'concensus', about what is 'required' for such a qualification? The government 'intrusion' would be nothing more than codifying THOSE values - to insure that all schools throughout the nation, grade according to the same criteria and scale. |
| Date | 09:33:31, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | We stll feel that private schools should be left largely free to decide their own course. They have done well on their own so far, why the need to interfere, is what we say. |
| Date | 13:19:46, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | The AAP has no problem with private schools determining their own 'routes' and approaches. The AAP merely feels that the education itself... i.e. the accredited portions that constitute the 'qualification' should have some universal value. Under the current system, for example, one cannot earn course 'credit' at private institutions, because private courses have no intrinsic 'values' according to universal education standards. Setting overall regulatory values, would allow a student who studies one year at a private school, to carry one year of 'equivalence' into a public school course. |
| Date | 13:23:19, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | Ah, now we see. |
| Date | 13:26:32, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | The AAP apologises if this was not clear in the original text - but the original text does refer to the need for "equivalence of qualification" and "ONE core measure of regulation, which will be the equal of qualifications obtained anywhere else"... We, perhaps wrongly, thought this explained our desire to see universal 'creditting'. |
| Date | 13:41:34, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | well, if you can make it explicit in the language of the bill that this is the only area in which the government intends to interfere, the LPE will vote in favour. |
| Date | 16:12:56, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | Ditto. |
| Date | 16:34:11, September 19, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | Will these standards be required to be met at all times, or only if an institution wants the course to be accreditted? If it is the latter, we have no issue, but we would have problems with the former. For example, could a Christian Fundementalist school be forced to teach evolution, or would failure to teach it juist loose the ability to transfer science credits to a public school? |
| Date | 00:50:31, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | Response to the RLP: The Christian Fundamentalist school doesn't have to teach biology at all - we are only talking Higher Education. IF, however, the Christian School wishes to teach biology, and it teaches origins, it must teach evolution to receive the credit on the course. If it doesn't WISH for that module to be credited, it can leave evolution out. Of course, it would HAVE TO teach some other core module IN IT'S PLACE, if it wished the course to receive a COURSE credit. |
| Date | 14:26:09, September 20, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | There are Christian Fundementalist colleges as well. However, withthe further explanation provided, we will support this. |
| Date | 22:32:12, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Higher Education |
| Message | We give our thanks to the RLP for their input, and their sanction. Motion to vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 236 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 39 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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