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Bill: Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2114
Description[?]:
| The AAP believes that citizens are not currently being protected enough by our food-labelling policies. Currently, food producers may use unlimited pesticides, etc... so long as they list such products on the packaging of foods. However, it has been brought to the attention of the Anarch Ankrousite council, that many companies are using 'chemical names' for pesticides, that are concealing the true nature of the product. In a similar way to how Likatonian soft-drink producers used to insist their products contained "Aqua" or "Dihydrogen Monoxide"... which are both, of course, mere water. To short-circuit this abuse of the sytem, to help maintain our beloved green Likatonian countryside, and to protect our citizens from harmful chemicals in foods, the AAP believes it is time to set stricter regulation on what can be sprayed on the crops our good citizens eat. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the use of pesticides.
Old value:: Farmers are required to list chemicals used on their crops.
Current: Local governments may choose to regulate pesticides certification programs.
Proposed: The government approves and regulates agricultural chemical use.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:11:12, September 18, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | We have no problems with the proposals. |
| Date | 00:17:18, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | We also approve. Not everybody has a sufficient chemical education to know which are likely to cause harm. |
| Date | 01:18:11, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | The AAP thanks the LPE and the Royalists for their contributions to the debate. In absence of any other commentary (and begging the indulgence of the Royalists, if they believe we are operating 'too quickly'), the AAP intends to vote on this matter momentarily. |
| Date | 10:47:47, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | It is a little hasty, all this legislation. If you could give perhaps four or five months for debate, the other less active parties would have time to make comments or suggestions too. |
| Date | 13:24:16, September 19, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | The problem is, if the AAP wishes to leave a matter open for debate - many of the less active parties seem to only be willing to debate on a (real life: once or twice a week) fairly long-term basis... and those parties that are most active (the AAP, the LPE and the Royalists, mainly) are left staring at the same legislation for several months. And, the AAP presents quite a lot of Bills. We don't want to end up clogging the system entirely, since that would have the same effect anyway... twenty presented bills are not going to get the same individual attention. |
| Date | 20:15:39, September 19, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | The RLP cannot support this bill which would add yet another bureaucracy for our industries to deal with, adding to the cost of doing business in our fair land, and give the people less choice in what they consume than they currently have. If any of our citizens do not know what any of the chemicals on a label are, our extensive library system would allow them to find out at a moment's notice, and further their education at the same time. If there is any problem with the labeling laws, perhaps some standardization of terminology on the labels could be proposed. Education, not regulation is the ultimate answer. We want our citizens to be able to decide for themselves, not have another bureaucrat make up tieir mind for them. |
| Date | 00:56:00, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | Response to the RLP: While I laud your libertarian ideals, and even share your concern, I couldn't disagree more. How does regulating pesticides 'give the people less choice in what they consume'? Pesticides shouldn't be part of what we consume at all... they should be 'gone' from the product by the time it hits market.... and the reason for this is, because pesticides are OFTEN harmful to humans. While the AAP supports free trade, and freedom for industry - we do not believe we should allow industry to poison our citizens in exchange for a fast buck. |
| Date | 14:24:46, September 20, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | Some people may feel that an acceptable level of pesticide use is a good tradeoff for better quality produce, others may not. Free choice. As long as the labeling is accurate, people cna choose. If it is not, the full force of the law is hardly sufficient to deal with that situation. |
| Date | 22:35:05, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Green Agenda |
| Message | The AAP has taken on board the RLP concerns, but feel that 'acceptable level of pesticide' is too 'nebulous' a term. We believe that acceptable levels, and, indeed, the pesticides that are ALLOWED, SHOULD be regulated. We don't want Likatonian farmers polluting the countryside (and killing wildlife) with DDT, no matter HOW MUCH labelling they do. Motion to vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 134 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 141 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Real-life religions should not be referenced in Particracy. Terra has its own religions, many of which mirror real-life ones. See: http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Illustrated_Catalogue_of_Religion |
| Random quote: "Socialism failed because it couldn't tell the economic truth; capitalism may fail because it couldn't tell the ecological truth." Lester Brown, Fortune Brainstorm Conference, 2006 |