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Bill: Negotiating a cabinet
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pariah Idealism
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2583
Description[?]:
| I would like to prepare a cabinet. Since we're a close group, with not much breathing space, we must get this done. So Mike Bramble is requesting that each party give me a list with most to least important cabinet positions. Then I can Finally construct a cabinet around certain views and opinions. Since nobody seems to trust my judgment of the last cabinet proposal, I am enacting the following rules: Foreign Affairs is my only true interest so it's not up for request Until it has been worked out, all positions with major conflicts including some of my own will be disqualified from the race and will be sent straight to me. These are Defense and Justice. This hopefully is not permanent. Noticing that Prime Minister and Finance will be wanted by all I will set up an election for these positions tell me if you'd like to be entered. Any other spots that seem to be appearing as likely as these 2 spots maybe subject to these terms. I will not take any of the following below or Prime Minister or Finance unless they are determined un-negotiable. Most-least spots: Internal Affairs Infrastructure and Transport Health and Social Services Education and Culture Science and Technology Food and Agriculture Environment and Tourism Trade and Industry |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:22:07, May 03, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | Did you know that the President can negotiate any treaty if he wants to? The President is the Foreign Minister by de facto. So, you don't need to have the Foreign Ministry. Actually, that is my only request. Aside from the fact you already know regading the Defense Ministry. |
| Date | 19:57:18, May 03, 2008 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | Why would PI give you that position when you've been unable to negotiate a treaty in 20 years? |
| Date | 21:02:29, May 03, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | Id dont really care about who gets FA as long as we get a good peace treaty signed |
| Date | 22:06:56, May 03, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | I have been unable to negotiate a eace treaty because Likatonia is unwilling to do so. I have proven myself in negotiating in other situations and I have made several deals with other countries. I am more than qualified to keep holding the Foreign Affairs Ministry. |
| Date | 03:02:13, May 04, 2008 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | What have you negotiated? Nothing useful as far as I can tell. |
| Date | 03:13:09, May 04, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | That is the problem, you can't see anything. You are simply a stubborn, disrespectful person. I have negotiated important relationships with other countries that have valuable to us. Since you only think your opinion and actions are the only ones that count, I won't explain anything to you. |
| Date | 04:24:24, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | Just show some profes of what you have done so we can put that specific debate dead |
| Date | 04:40:53, May 04, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | Here it goes. |
| Date | 04:41:11, May 04, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | 1- I have prevented our relationship with Telamon to break up by negotiating and making an alliance with the Rightful Radical Party. Check with them if you want to. Here's one of the messages. Date 19:36:44, May 01, 2008 CET From Rightful Radical Party To The Liberal Party Message The Liberal Party: Congratulations on winning the presidential election. It has been a pleasure working with your party and we hope we can continue working together. Ex-President David Porter, Rich Reynolds, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Nick Johnson, Chairman of The Liberal Party. My dear friend. I am working on Telamon-Lodamun friendship as we speak. Vojislav Krkljus President of Telamon 2- For those who think I am not making an effort to negotiate a peace treaty, here's a message with the Emmissary, or whatever is called now, which I sent. Date 00:24:48, April 25, 2008 CET From Artists & Poets of Likatonia To The Liberal Party Message The Liberal Party: I requested the previous Emissary and the Foreign Minister to approve my request of a vist to Likatonia from the President to negotiate a peace treaty. Could you give me a response to my request? Thank you Rich Reynolds Minister of Foreign Affairs United Republics of Lodamun We have had some parties go inactive, so the Emmisary and Foreign Minister were not available. As soo as the current Cabinet Bill is enacted, you'll get your response. Artists and Poets 3- I have also sucessfully negotiated the extradition of Andrew Moore, ex- Emissary of Likatonia. |
| Date | 04:41:31, May 04, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | There is the proof. URP, now what? |
| Date | 05:23:37, May 04, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | LLP can verify the third one if anyone needs to know. |
| Date | 06:35:29, May 04, 2008 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | #1 Friendship with Telamon? Didn't you negotiate the Anti-Likatonia treaty which telamon refused to ratify and a previous Telamon alliance which Telamon withdrew from? Are these real accomplishments? #2 In twenty years you've requested a visit to Likatonia? That's all you've done for peace. The fact is that the LP put outrageous conditions on Likatonia before negotiations would begin. #3 The extradition of Andrew Moore has led to what exactly? Is he on trial or have we turned him over to the Likatonians who would put him on trial? |
| Date | 06:50:03, May 04, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | I am going to xplain it once even though you are going to keep making silly excuses. #1- I did not negotiate the Anti-Likatonia treaty. I have negotiated the Telamon-Lodamun Friendship Treaty, a non-military treaty. I prevented our friendship from breaking by continuing negotiating with the party currently holding the presidency. Even though we haven't reached an agreement, yet, we have made great accomplishments and we still have that friendship because of my effort. #2- Likatonia is reluctant to negotiate, I can't force them to sign a peace treaty. At least I have tried and frequently. #3- He is in our custody. The rest is not my business. I did what i was supposed to do get him here, the rest is not up to me. |
| Date | 13:07:26, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | He is in our custody, awaiting trial from a international court (consisting of us and LIkatonian judges) after the war is over |
| Date | 07:08:50, May 28, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Negotiating a cabinet |
| Message | Any reason for this bill. This was a long time ago. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 150 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: In Culturally Protected nations, it is the responsibility of players to ensure the candidate boxes on their Party Overview screens are filled in with appropriate names. If a player is allotted seats in a Cabinet bill and has not filled in names for the relevant candidate position, then the program will automatically fill in the positions with names which might not necessarily be appropriate for the Cultural Protocols. |
| Random quote: "Mine is the first generation able to contemplate the possibility that we may live our entire lives without going to war or sending our children to war." - Tony Blair |