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Bill: Federal District Government
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sekowan Liberation Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2576
Description[?]:
The Federal Districts of the Federal Commonwealth of Sekowo shall be administered in accordance with the following: 1. Each Federal District shall have a District Folkstämma and a District Tenno. Elections for District Folkstämmas and District Tennos shall be held at the same time as elections for the Federal Folkstämma and Federal Tenno. (For simplicity, the election results in District Folkstämmas shall be the same as the election results for members of the Federal Folkstämmas from that region.) The District Tenno shall be the party that received the most votes in the district. The District Folkstämma shall have the power to change how the District Tenno is elected, with a 2/3 vote. 2. Each Federal District shall have a Cabinet, a motto, a flag, an anthem, a Constitution, a sport, an animal, and a number of Polises as may be created by the District Folkstämma. 3. District Folkstämmas shall have the power to make laws in the above areas, and to make laws in all areas that the Federal Folkstämma has delegated to the local governments. Laws that require a 2/3 vote on the federal level shall require a 2/3 vote on the District level. 4. The Federal Folkstämma shall elect a Clerk, to keep track of all of this. The Clerk shall create a bill for each District Folkstämma, and discussion and voting shall be done in there. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 04:32:54, May 12, 2008 CET | From | å¸å›½å…¬æ˜Žå…š (Teikoku KÅmeitÅ) | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | So long as the Federal districts are free and democratic we don't much care if they use the presidential, parliamentary or mixed systems. |
Date | 04:37:45, May 12, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | We support, and are somewhat surprised that the Revolutionaries proposed this. We would require, in order to support, a simple clause noting that "local governments" does not necessarily imply "district governments", but that, where appropriate, district governments may determine the issues. |
Date | 05:13:39, May 12, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | We support wholeheartedly. |
Date | 14:10:51, May 12, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Liberation Front | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | If the NPP would put that in the form of an amendment to this proposal, I'll add it. |
Date | 01:49:53, May 13, 2008 CET | From | å¸å›½å…¬æ˜Žå…š (Teikoku KÅmeitÅ) | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | Sekowo is a single entity, and is not even a Federation. That is priamrily why we oppose this. OOC: Plus the terms Federal Tenno and Federal Folkstämma sound stupid. |
Date | 08:42:14, May 13, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | Amendment: 5. Relegations relegated to "local governments" are not automatically delegated to a district level, but are assumed to be handled by smaller regional and municipal governments unless otherwise determined by District Folkstämmas. No District Folkstämma may pass any District-wide legislation without the support of an absolute majority. |
Date | 03:31:02, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Liberation Front | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | To the DSP: We are aware of that. However, there are several functions delegated to local governments, but the local governments currently have no way of carrying them out. Therefore, this proposal is needed. To the NPP: This amendment would render this bill completely ineffective, as District Folkstämmas would be unable to find an absolute majority for most bills. |
Date | 04:24:49, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Liberation Front | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | So the DSP doesn't want local governments to be able to do anything? |
Date | 06:55:24, May 14, 2008 CET | From | å¸å›½å…¬æ˜Žå…š (Teikoku KÅmeitÅ) | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | 1. We/I don't like the terms. 2. The Districts already can do most of these things thus making this useless. 3. We feel this gives local government to much power, as we beleive in an equal mix of powers. |
Date | 07:05:43, May 14, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | Revolutionaries: If Districts can't muster a 50% vote, they shouldn't be imposing their wills upon local governments. If that provision were included, we would support this bill. Without that provision, we oppose. |
Date | 00:14:29, May 15, 2008 CET | From | Anti-Federalists of Free Sekowo | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | We second the Normands. We cannot oppress the local governments, as they are closest to the people. |
Date | 00:57:50, May 15, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Liberation Front | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | DSP: If you don't want local governments to have power, then don't delegate powers to local governments. NPP: There are no other local governments yet. If somebody proposes a bill to create them, we will modify this bill to accommodate that. AFFS: The Federal Districts are the local governments. |
Date | 02:08:29, May 15, 2008 CET | From | å¸å›½å…¬æ˜Žå…š (Teikoku KÅmeitÅ) | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | The local governments have the powers we feel they should have as it is. Also, the Federal Districts are only a level of government. It goes National, State (Sekowo, Tropica etc), Federal District, Poli, Municipal. |
Date | 02:21:37, May 15, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Liberation Front | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | We propose to change this bill to add this clause: "5. District governments will only have powers that the Federal Folkstämma has delegated to district governments. If the Federal Folkstämma has delegated power to local governments without specifying which level of government, district governments shall have those powers unless the Federal Folkstämma passes a bill delegating it to another level of local government. A District Folkstämma may also delegate power granted to it to another level of local government." In other words, district governments would have the powers that are delegated to local governments by default, but the Federal Folkstämma may change it, and district governments can delegate their power to other local governments. Would this be an acceptable compromise? |
Date | 02:53:50, May 15, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Liberation Front | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | We withdraw this bill from consideration. |
Date | 16:25:12, May 15, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Federal District Government |
Message | No, that "compromise" is the exact OPPOSITE of what we wish. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
no | Total Seats: 191 | |||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 409 |
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