We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Budget proposal of May 2576
Details
Submitted by[?]: Lodamun Libertarian Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2577
Description[?]:
| The Lodamun Libertarian Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the United Republics of Lodamun. |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 500,000,000 LOD | 250,000,000 LOD | 250,000,000 LOD |
| Foreign Affairs | 4,000,000,000 LOD | 3,000,000,000 LOD | 3,000,000,000 LOD |
| Internal Affairs | 6,000,000,000 LOD | 4,500,000,000 LOD | 4,000,000,000 LOD |
| Finance | 1,500,000,000 LOD | 1,000,000,000 LOD | 800,000,000 LOD |
| Defence | 11,500,000,000 LOD | 90,000,000,000 LOD | 40,000,000,000 LOD |
| Justice | 5,500,000,000 LOD | 4,250,000,000 LOD | 2,500,000,000 LOD |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 7,500,000,000 LOD | 6,500,000,000 LOD | 6,500,000,000 LOD |
| Health and Social Services | 20,000,000,000 LOD | 10,000,000,000 LOD | 10,000,000,000 LOD |
| Education and Culture | 17,500,000,000 LOD | 12,000,000,000 LOD | 12,000,000,000 LOD |
| Science and Technology | 2,000,000,000 LOD | 7,300,000,000 LOD | 7,000,000,000 LOD |
| Food and Agriculture | 5,000,000,000 LOD | 2,000,000,000 LOD | 2,000,000,000 LOD |
| Environment and Tourism | 500,000,000 LOD | 2,150,000,000 LOD | 2,000,000,000 LOD |
| Trade and Industry | 5,500,000,000 LOD | 1,550,000,000 LOD | 1,550,000,000 LOD |
| Total | 87,000,000,000 LOD | 144,500,000,000 LOD | 91,600,000,000 LOD |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:13:48, May 15, 2008 CET |
From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of May 2576 | | Message | Trying a new budget.
Do remember that the average salery is 2-3000 LOD a year, so dont think a 1 billion LOD to be even close to 1 billion of your normal currency, 1 LOD would most likly be 10x or more than your countries currency in real life. (As an example I calculated that the current us military budget for 2007 (439.3 billion $) would be 41 billion LOD if the ratio of military spending to average income would be the same here as in the real world.)
Also every cut here is in departments run by LLP minsters with the exeption of 2. |
| Date | 00:16:43, May 15, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of May 2576 | | Message | There is a difference of about 6 billion between this one and the other one. I know this one didn't cut education but why would you cut defense by 5 billion? And why did you remove the taxation bill? |
| Date | 00:22:44, May 15, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of May 2576 | | Message | Sorry, saw it now. You made a cut in defense to give more tax cuts. I don't think 40 billion is enough for now because of our planned renovation of the military. But thank you for not cutting education. The Defense cut, I am not sure about it. |
| Date | 00:28:43, May 15, 2008 CET |
From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of May 2576 | | Message | Well there is no planned military renovation at the moment. The bill is a proposel, but has not been voted on in the legislature, and until it has done such it will not be offical.
And I cutted defense by another 5 billion since you guys dident want to cut education that was the other area I could cut alot. And our military can survive on 40 billion LOD. (as I stated that would be about the same amount the real us military spends today, with the 2 wars and everything) |
| Date | 00:41:03, May 15, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of May 2576 | | Message | You know I favor big military spending, so I am not sure, especially because the cuts were used to give a bigger tax cut. |
| Date | 00:45:00, May 15, 2008 CET |
From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of May 2576 | | Message | I know you favor bigger military spending, but I am sure there are other parties who prefer less military spending. Ans this extra cut has been approved by the MoD, who is in charge our military; so you create a vote of no confidence if you belive he is not doing his job |
| Date | 00:50:50, May 15, 2008 CET |
From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of May 2576 | | Message | I never said he is not doing a good job. I am not like other parties who just because they don't agree with the action taken by a minister they submit a no confidence vote. If the defense Minister thinks the cut is OK, that's fine with me. I personally don't like the cuts in the military when they are not needed. |
| Date | 00:56:28, May 15, 2008 CET |
From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of May 2576 | | Message | Well the only reason I proposed raising the military budget to 90 billion at war was because I was just throwing money at the military, not caring what they used it on aslong as they defended us well. |
subscribe to this discussion -
unsubscribeVoting
| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 85 |
| no | Total Seats: 45 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 20 |
| Random fact: In Culturally Protected nations, special care must be taken to ensure realism is maintained when role-playing a government controlled by an ethnic and/or religious minority. If it is to be supposed that this government is supported by a majority of the population, then this should be plausibly and sufficiently role-played. The burden of proof is on the player or players role-playing such a regime to demonstrate that it is being done realistically |
| Random quote: "The true destiny of America is religious, not political: it is spiritual, not physical." - Alvin R. Dyer |