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Bill: Local School Discipline Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Populist Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2114
Description[?]:
| Whereas, federal standards regarding discipline may be unfair to school systems that might face discipline problems unknown to the federal government, We propose to allow local governments to set the levels of discipline for their schools that they find necessary. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Current: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Proposed: Discipline levels are set by local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:47:54, September 19, 2005 CET | From |  Populist Liberal Party | To | Debating the Local School Discipline Act |
| Message | We feel here that, who are we to say that a given school district might not have a major discipline problem in certain schools that they feel requires striking of students, that they cannot? We intentionally set this up so that it's still the local government and not the school itself, as we feel the local government is likely to be less likely to allow the harshest punishments than schools themselves are; but we think that discipline policy needs to be set by people somewhat closer to the situation. |
| Date | 00:20:22, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the Local School Discipline Act |
| Message | No, physical violence should never be used against children as discipline. I strongly believe in schooling as the only way to improve the standards of living, and of course discipline must be enforced strictly, but sriking and such are a bad message to pass to the children. |
| Date | 00:32:13, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Local School Discipline Act |
| Message | Why should we open up our schools to violence from authority figures though? It is already required by law for children to attend school. With this law we would be forcibly sending them to be possibly abused by their schools. |
| Date | 00:37:06, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Populist Liberal Party | To | Debating the Local School Discipline Act |
| Message | Not to be abused, as local governments would continue to be able to regulate that; but to have the discpline that is required by the conditions of the school. The potential for abuse is why we chose to propose leaving it local school boards rather than the schools themselves. It is easy to sit in our plush capital offices and muse about what discipline should be enforced, but those closer to the front lines have a better idea of what is necessary. |
| Date | 01:54:12, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Local School Discipline Act |
| Message | Ok you aren't advocating abuse by schools. Let me rephrase my opposition. I am against any form of physical violence against students as a form of discipline ordained by the school boards. It's the same thing just a larger net. School boards can still vote to allow corporal punishment (correct term?) and that is still the same thing and just as bad. |
| Date | 01:56:38, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Populist Liberal Party | To | Debating the Local School Discipline Act |
| Message | If a school board does, it feels it has a school where the students are so resistant to any other form of discipline that corporal punishment is necessary in that school. To some students, being suspended is like a vacation, as they aren't worrying about their futures. We wish to allow corporal punishment in cases where the local school board, knowing the situation, decides that it is the only alternative that will work. |
| Date | 02:31:03, September 20, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Local School Discipline Act |
| Message | I'm very reluctant to accept violence against children as an acceptable way to keep order in the classroom no matter the circumstances. I am exhausted debating this and will simply say I am still opposed. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 178 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 262 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: The voters enjoy active parties who take upon themselves the initiative to create laws. |
| Random quote: "The most radical revolutionary will become a conservative the day after the revolution." - Hannah Arendt |