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Bill: Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberale Partij (L)

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2579

Description[?]:

Acting on discontent that is fuelled by the ongoing civil war, activists in the east coast province of Roccato are demanding more regional autonomy!

A statement signed by (mostly urban) citizens urges the withdrawal of both Confederate and Royalist troops from their province. Some officials and managers of Roccatan public institutions are tentatively agreeing, and have joined the movement in asking for more of a say in managing local affairs.

The localist movements asks that the Royal Government and the Confederate armies both agree to grant autonomy to the Provinces for the business of running the police department, the fire brigade, libraries, museums, public transport, drinking water, waste disposal, and the maintenance of public shelters.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:41:45, May 18, 2008 CET
FromLiberale Partij (L)
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
Message((Bringing this up for discussions first - will add proposals later to match content of the bill.))

Date21:55:45, May 18, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic Socialist Union
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
MessageThere is currently heavy fighting going on in Roccato, so I doubt any withdrawal of troops will be possible for the moment.
However, these matters concerning provincial autonomy should be handled after the Civil War, considering that this would require an amendment to the constitution.
As there currently is no central government, there really isn't the possibility to push through an amendment, let alone that there is "one" constitution.
The Union has its constitution (which is the one of Hutori as it is now) and the Confederation has its constitution (which is in a bill called "Constitution and Structure of the Confederate Democratic Republic of Hutori").

As it stands, Roccato is deeply divided amongst voters aswell.
69.23% voted for the Union parties,
30.77% voted for the Confederate parties.

Date04:56:51, May 19, 2008 CET
FromHutori Conservative Council
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
MessageWe firmly believe in state's rights and a de-centralized government, so we could definately support a legislation of this description. We believe that de-concentrating central authority over political issues allows the power and decision-making capacity to reside with the families and communities that are often forgotten or neglected by centralized governments on a national scale. If the good people of Roccato want things a certain way, we say let them have it.

Date04:59:35, May 19, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic Socialist Union
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
Message"If the good people of Roccato want things a certain way, we say let them have it."
If only things were that easy. Both the Union's and the Confederation's constitution favour a centralised state.
As stated before, matters such as this should be handled after all conflicts have ceased.

Date18:17:59, May 19, 2008 CET
FromLiberale Partij (L)
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
Message((bringing this to vote now - drinking water, waste disposal, and the maintenance of public shelters shall be a separate act))

Date19:30:16, May 19, 2008 CET
FromGroene ArbeidersPartij
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
MessageWe will support this bill, for we are no nationalists and we support people who have the will to come up for themselves, even during these harsh times of warfare.

Date19:34:23, May 19, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic Socialist Union
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
MessageFor the moment I shall vote against this bill due to reasons stated earlier.
This does NOT mean that we are against any further autonomy after the war, however.

Date20:36:25, May 19, 2008 CET
FromConservative Union Party
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
MessageThe Royal Greater Kenai Constabulary is the official police force of Roccato, and it isn't about to change.

Date06:24:28, May 20, 2008 CET
FromHutori Conservative Council
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
MessageWe do not necessarily believe in the police article - we feel that there should be state departments, of course, but that it is also important to have a seperate state department to look after issues of a national importance. However, as we support the rest of the articles in this legislation, we can support it.

Date15:33:59, May 20, 2008 CET
FromDemocratic Nationalists Party
ToDebating the Roccato Demands Provincial Autonomy!
MessageI will be voting against this for now. We feel that if it is just Roccato that wishes for this then it should probably not include any legislation. Legislation, to me, implies that the entire country is under those rulings. This is a provence we are talking about here, not most of the country.

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Voting

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Total Seats: 167

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Total Seats: 134

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    Total Seats: 0


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