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Bill: Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty
Details
Submitted by[?]: Christian Royalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2583
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:10:05, May 21, 2008 CET | From | Christian Royalist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | As it might have become apparently clear a year ago, the Christian Federalists and the Supporters of Science in Design are allies of the Christian Democratic Party since the early 2400s. Now we wish to create an acceptable treaty that will increase defence for all three nations. We are interested in any opposition or concerns about this treaty. |
| Date | 13:23:42, May 21, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | We have nothing in common with the Gerajan Republic of Malivia and the Valruzian Federation. We should make alliances of this nature with our own kith and kin: not foreigners with forms of government that are alien to us. |
| Date | 08:58:56, May 25, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | This proposed treaty threatens the security of Lodamun. We are one of the biggest trading nations and our ships and countries trading with us go through those waters everyday. Military ships poses a threat to our commercial ships. We condemn this treaty to the full extent. We recommend not ratifying it. Rich Reynolds Minister of Foreign Affairs United Republics of Lodamun |
| Date | 17:41:14, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | I'm sorry, did you miss the Anti-Spam treaty? |
| Date | 21:12:15, May 25, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | I have a right to post when it concerns my country, so I don't care about your anti-spam treaty or whatever you want to call it if t threatens the security of my country. |
| Date | 11:46:38, May 26, 2008 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | Yes, you have the right to. But not here. |
| Date | 21:49:19, May 26, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | Your so-called Anti-Spam treaty is only binding to the ratifiers, since my country is not a ratifier, I don't have to abide by it. Now, our country is very worried about this treaty and we advice against it to prevent any problems. |
| Date | 00:32:08, May 27, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | The Anti-Spam Treaty is a signal to spammers that its ratifiers will take action against their crimes. The Holy Luthori Empire has been known to blockade and bombard countries hosting serial spammers. |
| Date | 03:14:43, May 27, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | Go ahead, but be aware that in a fraction of seconds your country will disappear. We have one of the largest nuclear arsenals. But as I said, I have a right to post any comments when it concerns my country. |
| Date | 04:55:35, May 27, 2008 CET | From | Christian Royalist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | The proposal has been ratified by the Malivians. I suggest we ratify this treaty for mutual defense. |
| Date | 17:16:23, May 27, 2008 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | Indeed. And then we can bomb merry hell into Lodamun. |
| Date | 18:58:00, May 27, 2008 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | We already have the second largest defence budget in the known world, plus legislation allowing for first strike use of our significant nuclear arsenal. We don't need to sign a pact with foreign countries, with systems of government alien to our own, to crush the likes of Lodamun. |
| Date | 21:03:09, May 27, 2008 CET | From | Raistlin Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | For the safety Luthori must be |
| Date | 22:04:25, May 27, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | Hey, you threaten first, I simply responded. OOC: You guys are always involved in war, when are you going to stop, well, when are you going to get tired of looking for a war everywhere? |
| Date | 18:01:40, May 28, 2008 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Luthori, Malivia, Valruzian Naval and Military Treaty |
| Message | To the Covenanters, I agree. But we should still take care not to stir up a hornet's nest... OOC: @Lodamun: Probably never. It makes for a more entertaining RP. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 59 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 116 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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