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Bill: Ecology Localization (2581)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Normand Pluralist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2583
Description[?]:
| We propose that the following elements in Sekowo become more localized. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning forest protection.
Old value:: Forests have strictly enforced protection. Felling is limited to fire breaks.
Current: Forests have strictly enforced protection. Felling is limited to fire breaks.
Proposed: Forest protection is left to local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy regarding a national park system.
Old value:: The government funds and maintains a network of national parks and/or marine protected areas.
Current: The government funds and maintains a network of national parks and/or marine protected areas.
Proposed: The government devolves park policy to local governments.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on tree plantation.
Old value:: The government requires tree plantation at higher than replacement levels for all logging or clearance operations.
Current: The government requires tree plantation at higher than replacement levels for all logging or clearance operations.
Proposed: Local governments may set plantation policy.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on whaling.
Old value:: The government has no position on this.
Current: Whaling is illegal.
Proposed: Local governments decide about whaling.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:44:07, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | We're open to suggestions. What proposals do people like and dislike about this one? |
| Date | 01:00:40, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Anti-Federalists of Free Sekowo | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | Sounds good. Get closer to the people, and things will work out well. |
| Date | 01:08:57, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | While we would like less restriction on logging, we oppose devolving it entirely to local governments. We support devolving hunting and fishing, though would still like some minimum protection against overfishing/hunting. We oppose all other proposals. |
| Date | 01:51:39, May 25, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | We're against all. |
| Date | 03:06:01, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | We are most against the waste and water proposals. |
| Date | 11:27:06, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | Would you vote in favour of this bill if it lacked those and the hunting proposals, IMF? |
| Date | 15:12:14, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | If we have your word you arn't going to push the other ones through for a while. OOC: The whaling one is kind of rediculous as some local governments don't even have ocean to whale in... |
| Date | 16:31:59, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Anti-Federalists of Free Sekowo | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | OOC: I disagree. While it's true that many have it irrelevant, there is a great difference in the bays and waters offered from north to south. The whales might behave differently in different areas. It makes a great deal of sense. |
| Date | 22:01:08, May 25, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | OOC: I'm not saying it doesn't make ANY sence, I'm just saying it would be funny if a state like AZ made whaling legal in the US. |
| Date | 06:05:10, May 26, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | [[How long is a while? 6 months?]] |
| Date | 06:53:27, May 26, 2008 CET | From | Anti-Federalists of Free Sekowo | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | OOC: Frankly, I think AZ has every right to allow whaling in all of its waters. I think the local governments here stands, as I interpret, not as the regional legislatures coming to a common decision, but instead, different decisions for each region. Otherwise, this would be a rather frivolous bill, in my opinion. |
| Date | 07:01:17, May 26, 2008 CET | From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | [[Well, really, it COULD apply to either. As it stands, law in Sekowo is such that these powers are devolved to the regions, and local or District governments can then appropriate the laws, UNTIL regional governments take them to vote, in which case the regional governments can "appropriate" any laws which have been devolved. Generally, it's quite easy for a District government to do this.]] |
| Date | 16:28:55, May 26, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | OOC: AZ has no whales... thats the point... do you have no sence of humor? |
| Date | 14:01:18, May 27, 2008 CET | From | Anti-Federalists of Free Sekowo | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | OOC: Of course. That's why I think they have every right to slaughter every single whale in their waters. Animals rights aside, if AZ wants to go and exterminate the whales in their waters, they should go for it. |
| Date | 16:17:04, May 27, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | OOC: I'm hoping you just have a very dry sence of humor x.x |
| Date | 00:38:16, May 28, 2008 CET | From | Anti-Federalists of Free Sekowo | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | OOC: Ouch. Ok, I can take puns, but still... Ouch. |
| Date | 16:39:51, May 28, 2008 CET | From | Revolutionary State Socialist Party | To | Debating the Ecology Localization (2581) |
| Message | OOC: As per compromise. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 278 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 186 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 136 |
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