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Bill: Wage Budget
Details
Submitted by[?]: Birleşik Demokrat Parti
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2586
Description[?]:
| [Just to RP wages] Supreme Governor - 275,000 JAK per annum Chancellor - 145,000 JAK per annum Cabinet Member - 90,000 JAK per annum Council Member - 55,000 JAK per annum Of course, the Chancellor and Cabinet members are also Council members - so if they wish, they can claim two wages. That would total 200,000 JAK for the Chancellor and 145,000 JAK for Cabinet members. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:32:29, May 31, 2008 CET | From | Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Wage Budget |
| Message | Are the Chancellor and Cabinet members really members of the Supreme Council? I always had it in my mind that they weren't. |
| Date | 19:36:17, May 31, 2008 CET | From | United Reform Party | To | Debating the Wage Budget |
| Message | How does this compare to the average wage of a citizen? |
| Date | 20:44:06, May 31, 2008 CET | From | Birleşik Demokrat Parti | To | Debating the Wage Budget |
| Message | I'd imagine the Chancellor and Cabinet to be elected members of t he Council, yes [basing it on the UK at least] |
| Date | 03:20:57, June 01, 2008 CET | From | Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Wage Budget |
| Message | Well, it comes out to a total of 20,840,000JAK per year, according to my calculations. I don't know exactly where the money is coming from, but our Head of Government funding is only 5,000,000JAK per year, and I may be operating under the assumption that the Head of Government funding section covers government salaries. Though I suppose the Finance funding section might cover it, and we have a 50,000,000JAK budget there. But we maybe should also take into account full office staffs for all these people, as well as scribes and I don't know, caterers. And the Finance budget probably also pays the salaries of the nation's entire cadre of tax collectors, among other things. It begins to get very complicated very quickly. |
| Date | 03:28:06, June 01, 2008 CET | From | Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Wage Budget |
| Message | As for how it compares to the average wage of a citizen, I don't know. But we do know in terms of tax brackets: we only currently have the three tax brackets: 0%, 6%, and 13%. Council Members would be in the 6%, Cabinet members in 6% if they claim only one salary, 13% if they claim two, and the Supreme Governor and Chancellor would pay 13%. |
| Date | 08:44:43, June 03, 2008 CET | From | Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Wage Budget |
| Message | I think we may deliberately abstain on this one (something we've never done before). There's just too much uncertainty. |
| Date | 12:51:27, June 03, 2008 CET | From | Party for a Federal Meritocracy | To | Debating the Wage Budget |
| Message | We seriously considered abstaining as well. But in the end decided to vote against it--we cannot see that the budget supports this. The reason we considered abstaining is that this does not affect our members directly. Anyone working full-time for the Party receives a salary from the Party (and anyone belonging to the PFM in an elected position falls into that category). Any pay they receive from the Government is donated to the Party. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 161 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 102 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 87 |
| Random fact: "OOC", "IC" and "IG" are commonly-used acronyms in Particracy. "OOC" refers to comments, discussions and actions which are out-of-character, meaning they are done player-to-player rather than party-to-party. "IC" refers to in-character interactions (ie. party-to-party). Similarly, "IG" means in-game, although this term may also simply refer to what happens in the actual game interface, as opposed to on the forum or elsewhere. "RP" just means "role-play". |
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