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Bill: Weapons Movement (UHT)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union of Higher Thinking
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2586
Description[?]:
| It is irresponsible to deal in the international arms trade. The sooner we extricate ourselves from these dangerous dealings, the sooner our world can be a more peaceful place. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government does not allow arms to be exported.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:06:16, June 02, 2008 CET | From |  All-Indrala National League | To | Debating the Weapons Movement (UHT) |
| Message | Do we export weapons to tyrants? No. Do we export weapons to countries we know will us them to oppress others? No! The current system helps us protect the nations and people that need protecting. The Arms Industry supports thousands of jobs, if the UHT has their way these people will be jobless! The arms industry keeps Indrala up to date in advanced technology, without it talented Indralans will be seeking work in other state's where they know they can get work! |
| Date | 13:58:35, June 03, 2008 CET | From | Union of Higher Thinking | To | Debating the Weapons Movement (UHT) |
| Message | First of all, the 'jobs' argument is unworkable because you could as easily say that people making lethal poisons or anything dangerous should be allowed to do so simply becasue it is their job. Secondly, if the arms trade is legal, there is no guarantee that weapons are not exported to tyrants or oppressive regimes. By making the industry legal you open the floodgates to a wave of crime through exportation. I certainly wouldn't like to think my country was helping to kill people - whatever the political circumstances. Would you? |
| Date | 18:38:34, June 03, 2008 CET | From | All-Indrala National League | To | Debating the Weapons Movement (UHT) |
| Message | I would be much happier to live in a world where no one got killed, but that isn't going to happen. As soon as one state has weapons every free state needs weapons. Our current checks ensure our weapons won't be used for "evil" purposes and if they ever changed, we would cut off their supply of guns and ammunition for their guns. There is a lesson that the UHT seems to have never learned, we aren't living in a hypothetical wonderland, we leave in the real world and some things about it aren't nice, we just have to accept it and deal with it. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 225 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 525 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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