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Bill: Call for early elections, May 2586

Details

Submitted by[?]: The Liberal Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill requests an early election. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline. Elections will be held immediately if the bill passes.

Voting deadline: January 2587

Description[?]:

The current President is clearly unable to handle the military and is putting our security in danger. He must be removed from office to avoid any deadly mistake.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date02:10:09, June 04, 2008 CET
FromPariah Idealism
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageThough I don't feel that LLP is unable, I am at the bottom of the chain. (brcausr of my inactivity so it's my fault partially)

Date02:16:57, June 04, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageOOC: We are not talking about LLP, we are talking about a character of LLP's. There is a difference even though it is the same person. I don't know if you understand what I am saying.

Date05:28:36, June 04, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageThe Liberals are trying to start another war. The LLP has shown the proper caution unlike the savage Liberals. We need calm in dealing with this situation.

Date05:37:04, June 04, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageYou brought up the issue, not me, so don't criticize me. I have shown proper caution, I have tried diplomacy and it is working with some countries. Check the other thread about Final Request.


OOC: It is your fault not mine but honestly this country is getting boring, we need more RPing.

Date06:30:16, June 04, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageWell then leave please.

Date07:19:16, June 04, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageYour statement: "Keep crying baby."

Date08:30:27, June 04, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageI'm not crying, I'm merely stating the obvious. If you don't like it here then leave.

Date09:09:27, June 04, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageI didn't say I didn't like it here, I just said itis getting boring. This is a game, man, not real life, it is all about having fun, RPing.

Date11:10:15, June 04, 2008 CET
FromHobrazian Peoples Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageThe Three Nation Council will not interfere in internal political positioning and alliances, but we request that Lodamun Parliament agrees on an authority with whom the Three Nation Council and the ratified nations can deal with, an authority that we can trust and argue with in a modest tone. We find it rather difficult to understand the diversity of the Lodamun Parliament at the moment. We hope that you will find a reasonable solution to your internal disturbance so an logical and meaningfull discussion can begin.

Anette Lenkin
Hobrazian representative and Head Speaker of the TNC
HPP MIC
Hobrazian Minister of Trad and industry

Date15:39:29, June 04, 2008 CET
FromLodamun Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageThe president is unable to lead the military because he wont allow the MoD to authorize the military to respond with nukes? We must not be over agressive or this situation will lead to another war.

Date17:39:24, June 04, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageThe President clearly doesn't think the threat is credible enough and he is not allowing the military commanders to inform the Minister of Defense and Prime Minister of what ios happening. This is not a dictatorship and it is a clear violation of the law.

Date17:41:25, June 04, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageYou can negotiate with the Foreign Affairs Minister and the Prime Minister. Mr. Reynolds, the Foreign Affairs Minister, is the one conducting all the negotiations as of now. The President has the right to enter negotiations if he wants to.

OOC: To avoid any problems, we will have all negotiations made public in a thread. No behind the scenes negotiations.

Date18:34:32, June 04, 2008 CET
FromFree Leftist Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageLP, you must be very careful concerning your internal political maneuvering as it relates with the violation/blocking by rival nations. By responding with aggression to charges of warmongering, you will surely sour any diplomatic solution to the current problem. The FLP supported the measure of removal...but we will not support this.

Date18:35:42, June 04, 2008 CET
FromFree Leftist Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageNOTE: By measure of removal, we are referring to the removal of ships blocking our merchant fleet, not the removal of the President.

Date18:56:24, June 04, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageI am working this diplomatically but if we are fired upon, we will fire, that's a given fact. Keymon withdrew its military in a good act of cooperation but Likatonia is not backing down. Most of us know what Likatonia is and what they are capable of.

Date19:26:14, June 04, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageI'm confused why all these parties are voting for new elections now? Why wouldn't these parties support calls for new elections when we had clearly incompetent parties in charge?

Date19:29:42, June 04, 2008 CET
FromLodamun Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageShow me the law that say that the MoD and PM have to be informed by the military. The president is commander in chief, not the PM. Also I dident know the MoD has the power to authorize nuclear strikes withouth the presidents consent, they have never had it before.

Date19:32:37, June 04, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageThe LLP actually gave the Minister of Defense that power. Wasn't it an LLP MoD who launch an unauthorized nuclear strike during the Rapulan War? Didn't that same MoD authorize the use of chemical weapons on Likatonian-Lodamese during that same war?

Date20:03:21, June 04, 2008 CET
FromThe Liberal Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageWhen you ordered my order to be voided, I respected that, I undertand the President is Commander in Chief. What we are concerned about is that thought the President has that the Minister of Defense and the PM can be kept out of the loop when it comes to the military.

That issue about the nuclear strike has never been investigated.

Date20:08:34, June 04, 2008 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, May 2586
MessageI was stonewalled on that by the Lp among others.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
      

Total Seats: 89

no
  

Total Seats: 47

abstain
 

Total Seats: 14


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