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Bill: Give trouble makers something to do
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pariah Idealism
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2588
Description[?]:
| I do understand the think of LP but URRA made a very good point about the fact that child labour is forbidden. Since I'm Minister of Education and Culture I have taken this to be my responsibility to change. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 17
Current: 18
Proposed: 18
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:59:11, June 05, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | Although child labor is forbidden I assume they are allowed to take some lighter jobs like paper boys etc, so they do have some possibilties for a job |
| Date | 22:10:44, June 05, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | That was the point I tried to make the last time. Child Labor doesn't specify an age and we don't have a clear definition of "child." |
| Date | 00:16:59, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Lodamun Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | child = anyone under the legal age in my opinion. |
| Date | 00:25:57, June 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | There is a big difference between a 4 year old and a 16 year old. |
| Date | 02:52:05, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | Not by law. |
| Date | 02:53:33, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | But how would this help hem take on adult responsibilities that come when you aren't in school? |
| Date | 02:56:30, June 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | Remember this is about choice, the can continue in school if they want to and there is no statistic indicating that they don't continue in school (college or similar institution). |
| Date | 02:58:28, June 06, 2008 CET | From | Pariah Idealism | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | But those who don't want to continue in school should at least have High school education. |
| Date | 23:14:23, June 06, 2008 CET | From | The Liberal Party | To | Debating the Give trouble makers something to do |
| Message | What if they don't want to? OOC: In the U.S., when you are 17 (in most cases) you have a high school diploma and you can actually drop out of school if you want to, I think at age 16 but I am not sure. Most people will continue in high school because they know that is the only way to get a decent job. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 51 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 78 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 21 |
| Random fact: Cultural Protocols should generally be reflective of RP conducted within the nation and should not significantly alter or modify the ethnic, religious or linguistic composition without considerable and reasonable role-play or other justification. |
| Random quote: "A prince never lacks legitimate reasons to break his promise." - Niccolo Machiavelli |