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Bill: Cabinet Proposal Requirements
Details
Submitted by[?]: (KCCP) Communist Peoples' Committee
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2588
Description[?]:
| It is unfair that only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition.
Current: Only the largest party can propose a cabinet.
Proposed: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:38:27, June 07, 2008 CET | From |  CSA Pax et Socialism | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal Requirements |
| Message | The government... the capitalists... want to have a monopoly over the people... like totalitarians do. Dissent is prohibited. There is only one party, and if you are not with them, tough luck. |
| Date | 05:35:12, June 08, 2008 CET | From | Free Liberals Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal Requirements |
| Message | That's right. The DLP and FLP administrations governed to make monopolies. Look at our records, socialists, and tell me who are the one's trying install monopolies. From my own memory, it is the socialists who have wanted to nationalize all industry and production to create a monopoly of the people. Doesn't change the fact that it's still monopoly - and isn't it a thing that the socialists detest? They wanted to increase taxes, to increase the strength of the government to 'solve' everyone's problems, not that anyone should responsible for their own lives and property. A government can only want to strengthen itself for one reason, to create a monopoly over the people. That is totalitarianism. That is tyranny. Freedom is not tyranny, and freedom is what the Dolgarian people have enjoyed for the last three decades and more. |
| Date | 02:01:05, June 09, 2008 CET | From | CSA Pax et Socialism | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal Requirements |
| Message | The economy is not in question here, only your totalitarian government, of which dissent is prohibited. Your memory does fail you indeed. If you'd like to put some oil on that unused rusted brain of yours, you can go look at all my bills proposed. Look at this - 4 different people voted for the bill, yet one tyrant has the ability to shut the popular vote down. Stop denying something by dancing around accusations and countering with unrelated mud slinging. |
| Date | 08:28:01, June 09, 2008 CET | From | Free Liberals Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal Requirements |
| Message | 4 different parties votes for the bill, but 4 parties, this time, wasn't a majority. Isn't majority vote fair? Criticism hasn't be prohibited, in fact the laws that restrict advertising and other free speech, has been completely repealed so that the government has no scope in it, at all. This is totalitarianism? |
| Date | 00:32:58, June 10, 2008 CET | From | CSA Pax et Socialism | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal Requirements |
| Message | Yes 4 votes vs. one. I'm talking about real people here, not role play. I don't give a shit about the game mathematics that allows you to win because the creator of this nation made it a capitalist nation that never changes anything. When you have to put 4 people down to please one because the one doesn't appreciate any dissent against his totalitarian government... then yes, that is totalitarianism. Why don't you just let the people decide? Afraid they'll throw your totalitarian government out of power? Afraid the majority with overthrow you? Stop changing to the subject to ingame roleplay with the freedom to advertise and that bull blow. What is important is that all parties in this nation, everyone playing the game, should have a fair shot at taking your dictating ass out of office without you policing down on them so you can control all government and all actions in this game to your liking. Stop shutting down four people so you can jerk it to Ayn Rand. |
| Date | 01:01:51, June 10, 2008 CET | From | (KCCP) Communist Peoples' Committee | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal Requirements |
| Message | *loud and extended applause from KCSP senators* |
| Date | 07:43:32, June 10, 2008 CET | From | Free Liberals Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal Requirements |
| Message | There is a place for real-world debates and in-game debates. Here is the place for in-game debates. This National Assembly chamber is the reality we work with. The FLP does not agree with this policy. Is it somehow logical, then, to vote yes? It isn't. If you can't admit that, you're in neither reality. This is a game where one practices representative democracy. You can not pass a bill in such a system with less than the majority of the votes. You can indeed have a tantrum every time the vote doesn't go your way but you're only insulting your own intelligence by justifying your fits as democratic advocacy |
| Date | 14:09:17, June 10, 2008 CET | From | (KCCP) Communist Peoples' Committee | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal Requirements |
| Message | So it's democratic that only one party can propose a cabinet coalition? Aren't you against one-party dictatorships? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 38 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 31 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 31 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "I start with the premise that the function of leadership is to produce more leaders, not more followers." - Ralph Nader |