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Bill: Gun Control Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Justice Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2590
Description[?]:
| Gun control is an enormous waste Government money, it has not been proven effective in terms of crime and homicide and it just a hassle to the law abiding citizens who wish to purchase firearms. If a criminal is going to commit a crime with a firearm, they will not care if you need a license, they will obtain these weapons illegally. Gun control is unnecessary and a huge waste of tax dollars. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Current: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Proposed: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:51:50, June 08, 2008 CET | From | Vanuku Sinatranoan Party | To | Debating the Gun Control Act |
| Message | We, the Vanuku Sinatranoan Party, table the following documents detailing previous debate upon this issue. The successfully passed "Shooting From the Lip Act 2563" http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=185846 And the unsuccessful "Right to Keep and Bear Arms Act 2575" http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=191667 As always, debate is welcome with a new angle to support this proposed legislation, although we do not feel it is likely to be successful, given that it does not include even a basic attempt at preventing sales of arms to violent criminals or mentally disturbed individuals. If this is because "Gun control is unnecessary and a huge waste of tax dollars", then we feel they are dollars well wasted, despite recently proposed tax cuts reducing the available dollars on the grounds that "We do not need such high taxes". We feel that items as dangerous as firearms should not be made available carte blanche, despite the "hassle" this may cause to citizens. Any thoughts anyone? |
| Date | 03:45:15, June 10, 2008 CET | From | Social Justice Party | To | Debating the Gun Control Act |
| Message | The right to bear arms shall not be infringed. |
| Date | 12:37:29, June 10, 2008 CET | From | Vanuku Nationalists Party | To | Debating the Gun Control Act |
| Message | What right would that be? (OOC: this is not america, get over it) |
| Date | 12:59:22, June 10, 2008 CET | From | Social Justice Party | To | Debating the Gun Control Act |
| Message | (OOC: Nor am I an American) The human right to defend ones self. |
| Date | 16:17:57, June 10, 2008 CET | From | Vanuku Sinatranoan Party | To | Debating the Gun Control Act |
| Message | Defend oneself from whom? We have a standing military, compulsory military service, and an intricate network of national defence (as laid out by previous legislation). This law is not necessary. Indeed, it will increase violent crime, reduce the capacity for effectively controlling violent crime, and endanger citizens by reducing the capacity for authorities to restrict firearms to those who should not obtain them. The Vanuku Gun and Armaments Registration Division (VanGuARD) is doing an excellent job currently in curtailing illicit gun sales, and preventing those who should not possess weapons from obtaining them. We vote NO. |
| Date | 16:23:57, June 10, 2008 CET | From | Vanuku Sinatranoan Party | To | Debating the Gun Control Act |
| Message | Oh, and by the way, kudos for allowing one post and ten months' leeway for debate on this issue. Incredibly noble. |
| Date | 22:34:41, June 10, 2008 CET | From | Social Justice Party | To | Debating the Gun Control Act |
| Message | Gun registry has not been a proven method of reducing gun crime. If someone is going o kill another person, or rob a store, they will do it with some other means. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 27 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 60 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 8 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not implement nation renaming requests where the proposed name does not comply with the requirements set out in the Nation Renaming Guide: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6364 |
| Random quote: "Benefits should be conferred gradually; and in that way they will taste better." - Niccolo Machiavelli |