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Bill: Fire Department Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2592
Description[?]:
| An act to create a National Fire Department. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Firefighting services.
Old value:: Fire prevention and management is left to the local governments.
Current: There is a national fire department, funded by the government.
Proposed: There is a national fire department, funded by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:25:38, June 14, 2008 CET | From |  Conservative Alliance Party | To | Debating the Fire Department Act |
| Message | Come on now, are you honestly suggesting that the "central government" should go out and waste money on creating a national fire department while it's doing just fine in local hands? How do you expect to pay for all this, you know. There is more money going into the government rather than into the hands of the citizens, how does that work? I hope the Diet makes the right choice and votes no on this act. |
| Date | 03:58:53, June 14, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Fire Department Act |
| Message | This is completely idiotic, hopefully even the parties who oppose local government empowerment can see that. The Fascist Authority Party is obviously bent on making the Crownland governments another waste of tax money - just like the majority of their other reforms. This is senseless and we echo the call of the CAP for the Imperial Diet to reject it. |
| Date | 11:28:53, June 14, 2008 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the Fire Department Act |
| Message | We did not know that if the local government funds the fire department, it does not cost any money. Maybe the HNP must think first, it always has to be paid and by making it a centralized organ we can get scale benefits! |
| Date | 15:29:17, June 14, 2008 CET | From | Traditional Conservative's Party | To | Debating the Fire Department Act |
| Message | A centralized fire department in Kien would take days to get to Kuratha! |
| Date | 20:37:26, June 14, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Fire Department Act |
| Message | If a person in Graaffsberg phones in and reports a fire at his home, where should it go? To a centralised centre in Kien? Or to a local fire brigade two streets away? The PLP should think before they blindly follow the fascist lead toward an massively bureaucratic fanatically centralised state. Particularly in the area of fire brigades, local communities are better apt to deal with the issue. By the way, the point we were making earlier about tax money is that whether the fanatically centalist parties like it or not, we're always going to have local governments. It's built into our Constitution and laws that local government will exist. What the fanatically centralist parties seem to have failed to realise is that if they totally disempower them - which they seem to be trying to do - they will just be sitting there doing nothing wasting tax money. If our Constitution wisely requires us to have local governments, why should we make them useless drains of resources? |
| Date | 21:31:45, June 14, 2008 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the Fire Department Act |
| Message | Who said that there would be just one fire department in the entire Crownlands? There will be several divisions (under one banner with the National Fire Department of course) protecting each citizen. One location for an entire fire department is foolish and illogical. The NFD will be there for every citizen, not just for the people in Kien as other parties think. |
| Date | 22:04:53, June 14, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Fire Department Act |
| Message | Then what is the point of centralisation other than spending hundreds of millions of crowns relabelling and restructuring a system that already works? |
| Date | 12:29:51, June 15, 2008 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the Fire Department Act |
| Message | The bigger the better. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 220 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 155 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 125 |
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