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Bill: True choice
Details
Submitted by[?]: Protectorate Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2118
Description[?]:
| Advertising is nothing more then a form of brainwashing and therefore should be eliminated. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on advertising
Old value:: Only advertising that meets certain set standards is permitted.
Current: All advertising is permitted.
Proposed: All advertising is prohibited.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:04:16, September 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Republican Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | Charities? Non - profit organizations are allowed prehaps? |
| Date | 19:02:06, September 24, 2005 CET | From | United Labour Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | What about public information broadcasts? |
| Date | 01:09:44, September 25, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | Public information wouldn't necessarily be classed as advertising. However, we're not convinced this is a good idea. |
| Date | 16:56:03, September 25, 2005 CET | From |  Protectorate Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | We will allow exceptions for non-profits. What good comes from ads. Urging people to spend money they don't have on material they don't need. |
| Date | 01:59:28, September 26, 2005 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | If I was a small business, I'd want to be able to let the people know what services I offered and where I was located. It seems to me this bill will put small, start-up companies on an uneven playing field against larger, more established companies. |
| Date | 01:59:56, September 27, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | In order to make informed choices about what to purchase, people need information. Unless the government is going to take over the role of providing this information, we should leave it to the producers. We already set fairly strict standards for advertising - an outright ban would make little sense. |
| Date | 04:15:57, September 27, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | advertisement does not provide information, it provides glamor and spin. Reviewers provide information, if we ban advertisement we force information to come from an unbias source and it is therefore more likely to be an honest assessment of what the purchase provides. There will still be organizations which can refer businesses to a customer. Thus if you need a roofer, you check who comes highly recommended from these independent sources and select based on this information, not what the company wants you to think of them, or the fact that some spokeman had a good voice/body on the commercial. competition would be based on the quality/price of the service or product not on who outspends the next. |
| Date | 00:53:32, September 28, 2005 CET | From | LibCom Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | Sounds reasonable, but who funds these independent reviewers? |
| Date | 02:51:58, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | Different methods can be employed, self regulation occurs in many professions, Lawyers, doctors and the like generally have a policing force that regulates the profession, this can be extended to other professions. Independent organizations and reviewers can set up which review products and perhaps publish on the web or in magazines. Product safety labs can be set up where the industry pays to have their product tested to receive a certificate of approval (OOC: underwriters lab anyone). Referral services will no doubt spring up paid for by both the customers and the industries, depending on which ends up working better. Other ideas will no doubt spring up once the need is there. |
| Date | 02:53:09, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | (Forgot to mention) the policing service in the above also makes recommendations to the public who ask and tracks complaints, issues. |
| Date | 14:27:45, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the True choice |
| Message | We can't help but wonder at the inconsistency in the PP when it comes to the use of the media. On one hand the PP wants to allow the media free reign, without government regulation, . even when it comes to falsehoods that could result in harm, citing the 'government shouldn't interfere' ..yet, at the same time the PP wants to ban advertising, which is a huge government interference on the use of the media. However, a huge point on 'self regulating', is that in many cases, these organizations self regulate.. or try to..because the government would regulate them if they didn't, because of the harm that would end up on the consumer. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 84 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 16 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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